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    Kiara's Avatar
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    Kiara Silvermoon
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    Hi Visch,

    As a fan of the original Dynamis-Xarcabard, I'd normally agree with you, but in this case, I think the 5 minute lockout is fair for a variety of reasons:

    * Connection Lost: I've had many LS mates / friends who've d/c'd in the middle of this dungeon. Can you imagine the frustration if they had to wait 72 HOURS to retry it again?

    * New Class / Combat System / Job System Coming: Patch 1.18 introduced some dramatic changes to Core Combat. It's been a learning curve for many players (as can be seen by the number of topics on a variety of issues). Guildleves and the old FF XIV didn't really challenge or help make good players. Dzemael Darkhold is helping to rectify that.

    So with this tough dungeon and major changes to Combat / Classes, I think it's good to have a 5 Minute only lockout. It lets people try and try again if they want to, and get used to the new systems (and they're still not done yet with all the changes).

    * Fun. When you want it. Even a week+ after the Dungeons have been out, I'm still having a blast running through there every day. Sure, the hardest of the hardcore are already done (they've gotten all drops), but it's still fun for many, and with it being the only new (but well produced) content, with the high rank FF XIV population desperate for *something* to do besides Guildleves, I think it's a good thing for now.


    In the future, I'd agree: When we have more Raid Dungeons, more avenues to explore, adventures, quests, more things to do, then having some of the bigger challenges be on a more restrictive lockout to help build up Rarity is a good thing.

    But for now, this has been great for this first Dungeon.
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    Last edited by Kiara; 08-04-2011 at 08:43 AM.

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    do we allways need the devs to tell us how often we can enter whatever instance/dungeon/raid?
    i didn't enter the rank 45 dungeon once yet, and i'm in no rush to do so.
    the good between content you can access at anytime and content that has cool downs to access it, is that when you feel like doing something you won't be blocked to do so.

    people that enter dungeons solely for the reasson to hunt gear should do so if the feel like it, it just requires a few clicks and SE could make you run the dungeon 100 times without a single drop.
    that's about the same level of achievment as dynamis.
    just that dynamis had a cool down of 72 hrs, and it took that damn xarcabard zone exactly 1 year and 4 months to drop my damn THF af gloves.

    everyone has his own imagination of fun, yet what's fun for some shouldn't destroy what's fun for others.
    if you feel like you need a 3 day cool down, then stop entering nonstop and take a break for once.

    i guess if you want to enjoy your cake you shouldn't eat the damn whole thing in one go.
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    BoltNixter's Avatar
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    Bolt Narshe
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    i would love if they removed the 60min timer inside, why cant we enjoy the area instead of rushing it? And the "lose aggro" barriers are very stupid.
    I've had fun the first 2 times, after that its redundant and boring. Im one of the player that dont play for loot. Of course i like being well geared. But running the same dungeon over and over a la WoW for gear, makes me wanna pull my eyes out! (☼_☼)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoltNixter View Post
    i would love if they removed the 60min timer inside, why cant we enjoy the area instead of rushing it? And the "lose aggro" barriers are very stupid.
    WOW LOL!!! I guess you don't understand the point of it at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    Are you REALLY complaining about...

    5 minutes....

    Dear Lord.

    Humanity is SCREWED in another generation or two.

    Who cares if everyone gets two pairs of boots and a mage body?

    Doesn't mean squat in the end.
    Yes it does. It means I got nothing to do until the next update.

    Thanks for babystepping everyone through the dungeon btw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visch View Post
    WOW LOL!!! I guess you don't understand the point of it at all.



    Yes it does. It means I got nothing to do until the next update.

    Thanks for babystepping everyone through the dungeon btw!
    You're welcome.

    I figured everyone deserves a chance at the content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    You're welcome.

    I figured everyone deserves a chance at the content.
    Now if people would quit with the ARC only crap :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visch View Post
    Yes it does. It means I got nothing to do until the next update.

    Thanks for babystepping everyone through the dungeon btw!
    Well, maybe you should have thought about it before spamming the dungeon for hours since it has been released? It's not SE's fault that you have nothing to do until next update, it's not our fault either... Guess who's to blame?
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    Putting a limit on how many times you can enter the dungeon in a day/week/month/year is not the way to go, at all. Isn't it just like a harsher fatigue system that many people don't like and getting abolished in 1.19? Not to mention the drop rate of the chests are horrible (at least for me, haven't got any pieces I wanted after several run, they all have to drop when I'm not there).

    And the first three chests are best? Boots, Boots, Mage body is the best?
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    Are you REALLY complaining about...

    5 minutes....

    Dear Lord.

    Humanity is SCREWED in another generation or two.

    Who cares if everyone gets two pairs of boots and a mage body?

    Doesn't mean squat in the end.
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    Last edited by DoctorMog; 08-04-2011 at 10:13 AM.

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    Sorry Mog, humanity is already screwed.
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