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    Player Yoninxi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnus View Post
    If EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THAT TRIAL DUTY GROUP HAS SAID GEAR, then it would be okay to speedrun said content, because nobody is new. Now... what if someone was new... and wanted to honestly learn the content? Hmm?
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    Project Ziek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnus View Post
    If EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THAT TRIAL DUTY GROUP HAS SAID GEAR, then it would be okay to speedrun said content, because nobody is new. Now... what if someone was new... and wanted to honestly learn the content? Hmm?
    One person won't hold back a group of overgeared players. Not even 2. Maybe 3. Its on the tank or whoever pulls to make sure they know what the party is comprised of before they pull. Its not that hard, half the time you just gotta look at gear or check how much HP a player has. If you want to learn the content, watch a video before hand. You'll get carried through and should still know what's expected of you. And if you die, then well, you know you done f'd up. Because there's no way you should be dying in Ifrit, Garuda, or Titan really, unless you can't dodge. There should be more than enough DPS to make it past heart phase and rek Garuda's Twins, and take down all Nails, with the way people are running it nowadays. But like I said, its on the tank and veteran players to know the situation and adjust if needed. If half the party is not that up to gear with the rest of the other half, they gotta know to adjust. If they don't, that's their own fault.
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    People dash off because they can. If a party has even one competent healer and tank, they can pretty much duo the fight, throw in a couple of Novus geared DPS and the fights are an absolute cake walk. People are so grossly overgeared that not getting healed for a while at start isn't a big deal. The beginnings of encounters are not dangerous anyway. The locked CS circle pretty much makes the transition screen the only possible load time when the party can dash off, and that barely lasts a few seconds with a normal connection. We're literally talking about a time period of seconds here.

    And since when was wiping to content the only way to learn it? If you can win with less people, you might as well win the fights while you learn.

    It's old content, people are gonna rush/farm it. New people are going to have a different experience with the fights than the people who played a year ago. Those are the realities and people need to accept that.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
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    A tank alone isn't going to carry the fight... If most of the party is newer 50s running it for the first time, especially if it's one or both healers, and you run in and Leeroy Jenkins the boss you're probably going to die. The result of that is likely going to be raging at the healers/DPS then rage quitting the Trial leaving the group waiting for a replacement. It doesn't matter how old the content is...some people are experiencing it for the first time and deserve to do so just as much as us vets did when we first did it a year ago. The Primal opening CSs aren't very long so there's no excuse for not waiting for everyone to get out of the CS and then it's only polite to verify who, if any, is new. Running in when the healer(s) aren't ready is not only impolite but suicidal and detrimental to the entire party.
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    Player Yoninxi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
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    The game locks you in a circle if someone is watching the opening CS.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoninxi View Post
    The game locks you in a circle if someone is watching the opening CS.
    Yah I remembered that right after I posted lol but my point still stands
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magiseanzz View Post
    With more people progressing into the Nexus phase, this will only continue, and I would like to know how to handle this in a respectful and fair way.
    Make your own parties with Party Finder.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    Make your own parties with Party Finder.
    See that just gives off this feeling of " Our way or the highway, chumps! We're the kings/queens round these parts! "
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    Player Yoninxi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnus View Post
    See that just gives off this feeling of " Our way or the highway, chumps! We're the kings/queens round these parts! "
    Or you want everyone else to do it your way , or they're being inconsiderate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoninxi View Post
    Or you want everyone else to do it your way , or they're being inconsiderate
    That's not what I'm trying to achieve here. Why cant we just do the right thing? Are we that selfish and impatient?
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