Recent Behavior in Trial Duties (stemming from Nexus)

[Yoninxi]

Just target protect people that run off. It still AoEs

[Rustyhagun]

don't know what to say OP... but zerg parties own pug groups at the moment. give it another 1-2 weeks.. to die down. Make you own party and say its a learning group.

[Magiseanzz]

don't know what to say OP... but zerg parties own pug groups at the moment. give it another 1-2 weeks.. to die down. Make you own party and say its a learning group.

It's doubtful that it will die down any time soon with the way the Nexus progression is. Can I cast protect four different times to get everyone in the party? Probably. Can I still stoneskin everyone with the start of the fight? Maybe. But why should I have to chase everyone down? And, more importantly, if you're in a rush, you've just lost the damage I could've been contributing in Cleric Stance. At about 615 on a Stone II with 930ish for crits, I could've thrown in around 7000 in damage instead of chasing everyone down to protect them or heal extra to compensate for those who don't have protect on them to begin with.

Still, I realize the people who want to rush will continue to have arguments as to why they feel healers don't deserve to cast beneficial spells to the party, and again, that is why I'm seeking development/admin response. (And not one of those generic "Please look forward to it" responses, though I'm sure that's inevitable.)

Protect is a spell for a reason.

[whoopeeragon]

@Magiseanzz: As a fellow healer, my advice is to just not heal those who give you such trouble. Some people have to learn from actions; if a particular tank I'm with runs off without taking Protect, I assume they don't want my heals either. Better yet, I stand next to them and start desynthing fish. Or repair my gear one piece at a time. I have a cast-Protect-once policy. Even a macro: "Casting Protect now, if you're not in range, too bad so sad <se.10>". And if they're not in range, I'll assume they're not in range for heals either.

They can Leeroy Jenkins all they want, I'll be alive AND have my chicken as well.

[Lithera]

Yah a tank at least can hold their own for a little bit if they run in...a DPS...as a healer I'll just let a DPS who Leeroys die since if I hit them with a cure I'll take hate and wind up dead myself if the tank(s) aren't prepared. As a tank...I usually wind up reflexively grabbing the boss and trying to recover the attempt depending on the Trial. Running in with buffs isn't even that big a deal, but if the healer hasn't buffed you there's a chance they're not quite ready to start the encounter either. I'll happily buff after the pull, but it isn't my problem if you pull with no warning as soon as the barrier falls and I'm typing something quickly in FC chat or something and you die as I scramble to cancel out of the chat box and cure you.

[Danbo05]

Yah a tank at least can hold their own for a little bit if they run in...a DPS...as a healer I'll just let a DPS who Leeroys die since if I hit them with a cure I'll take hate and wind up dead myself if the tank(s) aren't prepared. As a tank...I usually wind up reflexively grabbing the boss and trying to recover the attempt depending on the Trial. Running in with buffs isn't even that big a deal, but if the healer hasn't buffed you there's a chance they're not quite ready to start the encounter either. I'll happily buff after the pull, but it isn't my problem if you pull with no warning as soon as the barrier falls and I'm typing something quickly in FC chat or something and you die as I scramble to cancel out of the chat box and cure you.

Oh yeah, Monks and Dragoons are on their own. #YOYO

[Kitfox]

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I don't get what you're asking for. Just do your job the best you can and don't be an asshole if the party wipes? Or should the devs come say that all veteran players are mean and they should be reported? Of course you can report someone who deliberately keeps wiping the party and isn't contributing but this isn't the case, right? People that rush a pull because they can afford to and win in the end are doing nothing wrong. Now if the party wipes because of an early pull, you just try again after people dust themselves off. Is this really a topic?

Do your best. Don't be an asshole. If someone considers you rude then that's their problem. If you wanna be friendly, say hello and chit chat, then maybe that's your thing. But people really need to stop being so touchy about everything. Are we gonna make a topic about players not saying hello next? "They be rude, yo! Ban them!"

[Edli]

It's doubtful that it will die down any time soon with the way the Nexus progression is. Can I cast protect four different times to get everyone in the party? Probably. Can I still stoneskin everyone with the start of the fight? Maybe. But why should I have to chase everyone down?.

You trying so hard to make this sound like a big deal when it really isn't. Just cast protect during the fight and nobody cares about stoneskin on these HM versions.

[Rocond]

Most tanks have protect already anyway from the previous fight and you can get anybody that doesn't while the fight is going on.

[Radacci]

Is not immediately healing considered a ToS violation; or, are the players initiating battles without allowing others to get their bearing in violation?

seriously?

protect and stoneskin aren't needed for ppl that are doing nexus grind.
if they dash away and ignore protect, it's their loss. you can go in to middle of arena, and cast protect; it's not like Titan HM is: omg need to spam cure constantly! as healer you probably stand around half of the fight, doing nothing.

there's lots of ppl doing nexus atm, but it will calm down over time, actually.
and...you can do PF instead, where you don't have to deal with that. in PF you can decide the pace, in DF, not so much.