Recent Behavior in Trial Duties (stemming from Nexus)

[Yoninxi]

That's not what I'm trying to achieve here. Why cant we just do the right thing? Are we that selfish and impatient?

I still don't understand how killing the boss in a timely manner without a wipe on the first or second try is not "doing the right thing". The newbie still gets to see all, or most of the mechanics and phases . It's simply not feasible to explain every mechanic every time there is a new person in a roulette.

[ElHeggunte]

See that just gives off this feeling of " Our way or the highway, chumps! We're the kings/queens round these parts! "

It's the only way you're going to get what you ask for. Just by virtue of how old the content is, the majority of the playerbase is going to outgear it by miles anyway which is going to have a big impact on how new players experience it. If you want to really experience the fights in the way you're asking you need to make your own group with clearly defined rules of who can join or else you're right back to square one.

Using Duty Finder and moaning when the overgeared players destroy the content is silly when SE added Party Finder specifically to combat situations like this.

[Lithera]

It's the only way you're going to get what you ask for. Just by virtue of how old the content is, the majority of the playerbase is going to outgear it by miles anyway which is going to have a big impact on how new players experience it. If you want to really experience the fights in the way you're asking you need to make your own group with clearly defined rules of who can join or else you're right back to square one.

Using Duty Finder and moaning when the overgeared players destroy the content is silly when SE added Party Finder specifically to combat situations like this.

He's not complaining they're facerolling the content...he's complaining that the tanks take off and pull without a care about the rest of the party being ready or not. Big difference there.

[ElHeggunte]

He's not complaining they're facerolling the content...he's complaining that the tanks take off and pull without a care about the rest of the party being ready or not. Big difference there.

The OP maybe, but Wyrmnus very much seems to be complaining about how the content is being cleared in several of his posts.

[Razzle]

See that just gives off this feeling of " Our way or the highway, chumps! We're the kings/queens round these parts! "

Um no. The feeling you should get is "Majority Rules". Regardless of what my opinion is on this subject. a Run should be ran in a way the majority decides it to, and if someone is not content with that he can go to party finder to find people that thinks alike.

All the "but if this" and "if that" you're talking about - it's just not happening. These tank came to be like that because meeting a party that can't speedrun is RARE to near impossible. I grind Nexus for a few days now and didnt run into a party with more than 1 newcomer in the whole time (and a newcomer that wanted to "learn the fight" at that). So yes, majority rules.

[Lithera]

The Nexus farmers should be using Party Finder...FFS...best way to Nexus grind is Cape Westwind anyways. If you're going to Roulette...don't be an asshole. PF a Nexus grind team for the fastest Trial facerolls instead of risking your time/energy on a Rouletted party that may be more than 50% new players. Castrum and Prae are mildly understable for the speedrun stuff but there's 0 excuse for doing that crap on a Primal..

[TheMoonflow]

A lot of people think they are saving valuable seconds by not dodging that aoe or early pulling just to get in a bit more dps.
But what they fail to understand is, every time I have to heal you is time spent that I could be dpsing,, so really, we gain nothing.

[Danbo05]

A lot of people think they are saving valuable seconds by not dodging that aoe or early pulling just to get in a bit more dps.
But what they fail to understand is, every time I have to heal you is time spent that I could be dpsing,, so really, we gain nothing.

I understand if that's plumes/eruptions, it can be frustrating because no matter how geared you are, you're not gonna be able to eat all of Titan's plumes. But if its like Garuda's Shriek, then that's nothing a Medica II can't fix.

[TheMoonflow]

I understand if that's plumes/eruptions, it can be frustrating because no matter how geared you are, you're not gonna be able to eat all of Titan's plumes. But if its like Garuda's Shriek, then that's nothing a Medica II can't fix.

Yea, I've pretty much accepted the new garuda meta
and I actually prefer using the ex positioning myself
But I'm starting to see the zerg style carry over to other primals and it makes me cringe sometimes

[Magiseanzz]

As for winning or losing, it's been a mix. Half of the trial roulettes I've been getting have the new player mythology tome notification, with some having multiple new players. If I can put up stoneskin and protect, it gives the party a chance to get their footing in the fight and the stoneskin can absorb some of the initial clumsiness some players who are newer to the content may have. Protect can also mean having a player alive or dead when they've accidentally eaten a hit that they meant to dodge. We've all had those moments where we've accidentally eaten a hit.

I'm just saying that 18 seconds really isn't too much to put up with when stoneskin and protect can only benefit the party. Three minutes without the battle starting is excessive, and I will agree to that. It's just those players who are impatient and start as soon as the blue circle disappears, which can often do more damage--especially when you have a blatantly rude DPS player who starts the fight and has Ifrit blast fire breath on the party or has Titan rip off everyone's faces.

I'm looking for official ruling from the development or admin team to see what the right course of action is here, as the presence of this behavior is increasing with each day.