TGS Live Letter Discussion

[Nalien]

Items from other places that are under Imperial Occupation at the time the Empire is trying to subjugated you are though. Do you really think that Doma under Garlean occupation would be allowed to trade with Eorzea while Gaius is trying to take over it?

There are these people called smugglers... Heck, cultural items or crops could even have been imported before Imperial Occupation.

But the Frontlines battles weren't thought up until 2.3, if you take part before that you are involved in a battle that lore wise should not be taking place.

The main scenario quests for 2.3 describe the Flats as a battlefield; the only battles to occur there are the Frontlines battles, ergo Frontlines has been going on before 2.3 lorewise, we only just got access to it in the 2.3 update. There is nothing in the 2.3 main scenario quests that starts up Frontlines, as it were. We just happened to get access to Frontlines in the same update where the main scenario starts mentioning it, as far as lore goes it's been going on from before whenever you picked up the quest at your Grand Company HQ, and that can be at pretty much any point post-50, you're pretty much just recruited into an already occurring battle when you accept that quest. No where in 2.3 does Frontlines get announced as a new thing which the Companies just started; it's always been going on in the background as far as lore is concerned.

[Omegakiyohime]

There are these people called smugglers... Heck, cultural items or crops could even have been imported before Imperial Occupation.

So wait, people could have brought in items/had knowledge of Doma before the occupation or 2.2? What's stopping them from having brought in cultural garb or that mystical job stone that teaches us the art of the ninja? What stopping these smugglers from bring scrolls that teach techniques. If items could have been stolen out of Doma and brought to Eorzea before 2.2 occurred, then what is stopping you from looking over the scrolls with some eorzean scholar that got his hands on them and the job stone. Yes, Yugiri is going to teach it/bring it to the Rogue's Guild, but if we are establishing that sufficient knowledge of Doma to establish trade predated 2.2 then surely knowledge of the Nins of Doma must predate it as well.

[Nalien]

So wait, people could have brought in items/had knowledge of Doma before the occupation or 2.2? What's stopping them from having brought in cultural garb or that mystical job stone that teaches us the art of the ninja?

Nothing is, except the fact that that isn't the way SE wants to write it.

They want the refugees from Doma to teach us their skills. No where, however, do they suggest that the same refugees are the sole source of people bringing Doman Plums to the Grand Companies.

Also, knowledge of Ninjas? Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it said to be a secret art? Just because traders/smugglers/whatever can have had contact with Doma, doesn't mean they'd have an intimate understanding of the place; certainly not of a secret stealth force, and certainly not enough to teach us about it second hand.

[Omegakiyohime]

Nothing is, except the fact that that isn't the way SE wants to write it.

We don't know how SE wants to write it, because they haven't written yet. If 2.4 comes out and new players are taught out to be ninjas because of Yugiri. Yes, that is a major paradox and would be retconning. If they want to write a story of how you, a rogue, stole some mystical stone/scrolls from a boat that turns out to be from Doma, they could.
And as you said, Ninja's are a secret stealth force, having hidden sects in major capitals wouldn't be that strange of a thing and having them reach out, in secret, to a talented Rogue wouldn't be that crazy. If the existence of Doma predates 2.2, then they certainly have the room to do so.