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  1. #71
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    Magnesium02's Avatar
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    Rogue Muse
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 96
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  2. #72
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    Danbo05's Avatar
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    Project Ziek
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Bit of a fail troll attempt here given that no one has ever contested Rogue even being available from char creation. The Rogue's guild has always been there as we are told in 2.2 so there's no issue with having people unlock Rogue before that point in the story.

    The issue is Ninja itself as Yugiri says she will teach us personally and that is impossible if you aren't at the correct point in the story. Given that Rogue is gated though I'm quite confident that Ninja will be too.
    I believe Yoshi-P confirmed you can't unlock Rogue until you get 1 class to lv10. So no, Rogue is not available right off the bat for newly created characters.
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  3. #73
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    I imagine you'll still need 2.2 cleared to unlock Ninja, they can just change dialogue based on whether you've done 2.2 or not for Rogue.

    They also mentioned how the guild will be similar to the Tenshodo from Final Fantasy XI, and if I remember correctly there was a point in the missions where you basically get invited to their hideout, but before that you could find it and join. So yeah, find the Rogue Guild before 2.2 and you can level it, and 2.2s dialogue will be different. Don't find it before 2.2 and you get introduced to them for the first time like all of us will be.

    I really hope people don't complain about this kind of content, because it's exactly what a lot of people have been asking for; you explore Limsa Lominsa, find a hidden Guild, and get rewarded with a "secret" Class to level. If we can get more of that in the open world (though not all linked to Classes, of course), that would be great.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 09-21-2014 at 11:16 PM.

  4. #74
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    the idea is nice, but with internet... you really think people will explore? most of the people will go on the net and simply google the position of the guild... and a new building open is not something that will go unnotice... then it's simply a way to care for the people that don't want to simply accept the fact that some class can't be offered on the silver plate and ask to advance in the game for get it.

    level 10 can be done in less of 2 hours.... seriously i'm unsatisfied with this solution... they simply throw out the lore for please people that don't want to really invest time into the game.
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  5. #75
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    You're not saying they shouldn't add content like that because people will Google it, are you?

    If people want to follow a guide instead of having a brain, let them. If people want to see the Mona Lisa on Google Images instead of seeing the real thing, let them.

    There is no reason not to have nice, thought out content, just because some people are going to Google it.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    it don't change that this option will be used correctly by what? 10% of the playerbase... like i have said, i like the idea... but in the fact it's will have little to no impact.
    How many people skip cutscenes? Or buy runs? Guess we should remove cutscenes and endgame as well?
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    Last edited by Nalien; 09-21-2014 at 11:51 PM.

  6. #76
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    it don't change that this option will be used correctly by what? 10% of the playerbase... like i have said, i like the idea... but in the fact it's will have little to no impact.
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  7. #77
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    Coris's Avatar
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    Coris Teijan
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 73
    Oh sweet Thaliak, Qarn HM...
    /nightmare

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  8. #78
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Right now I don't like how he isn't addressing the issue of story content accessibility except with a faint "we will get to it somehow, someday, somewhere..." The entire inclusion of Bahamuts Coil was fine back in 1.0 when the fights were more "know your own role" than dancing in sync with everyone else, but due to encounter design getting through content without a static has become a nightmare. Then there is the problem that they have extremely complicated DPS job rotations in comparison to most MMOs and they make the DPS have to pay attention to even more things in Ramuh EX. I just don't know anymore if they even know what they are doing over there in the development department. They seem to have ideas that run contrary to what people really want.
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  9. #79
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    Brady Phelan
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    Midgardsormr
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Magnesium02 View Post
    Topic 18: The Ixali Gloves are weak!
    Ixali quests were designed for new crafters not existing hardcore crafters, so gloves aren't OP
    This sounds like he's talking about the Ehcatl Wristflovs (the ilvl 6 pair). What about the Ehcatl Smithing Gloves (ilvl 70)? There was a suggestion that they might give us back the 3 CP..,
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  10. #80
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    Recaldy Northwind
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Qarn HM AND a new snow dungeon? My-Lady-Ice will have to wait. $_$
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