TGS Live Letter Discussion

[JakzChurchill]

Why? All the story quests from 2.3 did was explain some lore behind Frontlines; people are fully capable of fighting in a conflict they have no understanding of. You actually get the reason you're fighting in Frontlines explained in the quest for it anyway, all the 2.3 main scenario quests did was explain the secret truth behind it all.

But the Frontlines battles weren't thought up until 2.3, if you take part before that you are involved in a battle that lore wise should not be taking place.

This is an issue MMO's have to contend with, as the world will always evolve at a different pace to a lot of the playerbase, liberties have to be taken with a lot of content, especially when it comes to open world.

[Nalien]

Items from other places that are under Imperial Occupation at the time the Empire is trying to subjugated you are though. Do you really think that Doma under Garlean occupation would be allowed to trade with Eorzea while Gaius is trying to take over it?

There are these people called smugglers... Heck, cultural items or crops could even have been imported before Imperial Occupation.

But the Frontlines battles weren't thought up until 2.3, if you take part before that you are involved in a battle that lore wise should not be taking place.

The main scenario quests for 2.3 describe the Flats as a battlefield; the only battles to occur there are the Frontlines battles, ergo Frontlines has been going on before 2.3 lorewise, we only just got access to it in the 2.3 update. There is nothing in the 2.3 main scenario quests that starts up Frontlines, as it were. We just happened to get access to Frontlines in the same update where the main scenario starts mentioning it, as far as lore goes it's been going on from before whenever you picked up the quest at your Grand Company HQ, and that can be at pretty much any point post-50, you're pretty much just recruited into an already occurring battle when you accept that quest. No where in 2.3 does Frontlines get announced as a new thing which the Companies just started; it's always been going on in the background as far as lore is concerned.

[Lithera]

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Items from other places aren't lore breaking...they're imports. Ulbuka and Aht Urghan were introduced in quest dialog and some items before their expansions ever showed up in XI. Your assumption is false because when you start the game it's always 5 years after the Calamity. The Domans don't appear in Mor Dhona until you reach that point in the story. The only reason REv's Toll always appears the same to everyone is more a technical issue (New Players would appear clipped through buildings if they were moving around the old Revs Toll). Frontlines has been occurring the entire time and actually only gets a brief mention in the Main Story.

[Omegakiyohime]

Items from other places aren't lore breaking...they're imports. Ulbuka and Aht Urghan were introduced in quest dialog and some items before their expansions ever showed up in XI. Your assumption is false because when you start the game it's always 5 years after the Calamity. The Domans don't appear in Mor Dhona until you reach that point in the story. The only reason REv's Toll always appears the same to everyone is more a technical issue (New Players would appear clipped through buildings if they were moving around the old Revs Toll). Frontlines has been occurring the entire time and actually only gets a brief mention in the Main Story.

Items from other places that are under Imperial Occupation at the time the Empire is trying to subjugated you are though. Do you really think that Doma under Garlean occupation would be allowed to trade with Eorzea while Gaius is trying to take over it?

[myahele]

Items from other places that are under Imperial Occupation at the time the Empire is trying to subjugated you are though. Do you really think that Doma under Garlean occupation would be allowed to trade with Eorzea while Gaius is trying to take over it?

There's some low level limsa lominsa quest that tells you some actively raid Garlean suppy lines. One was able to procure Garlean fire sand and other produces from Garlean-controled Othard. In other words these items are most likely being smuggled. The fact that they're only sold by GC than vendors show how rare it is.

[myahele]

Its odd that ROG isn't a starting class, I guess they couldn't somehow reprogram it in the character creation/opening cutscene.

Well, when in comes to lore then the only solution I can think of is another doman refugee NIN will be the guildmaster. Maybe this NIN was living in isolation for years untill they were discovered? For those who completed then maybe Yugiri may make a cutscene.

[lololink]

Its odd that ROG isn't a starting class, I guess they couldn't somehow reprogram it in the character creation/opening cutscene.

Well, when in comes to lore then the only solution I can think of is another doman refugee NIN will be the guildmaster. Maybe this NIN was living in isolation for years untill they were discovered? For those who completed then maybe Yugiri may make a cutscene.

If they want to have a guild in each city they can't have a rogue as starter as it will have 3 possible start places, there is also the NPC from the adventurer guild that will point you to that guild, making it less secret then.

[Wavytiger]

dungeons, coil, primal and add in a DoW, I knew this was all the patch was going to have, but still underwhelmed and bored. xpac type stuff will hopefully bring an entirely new thing to look forward to instead of rinse repeat every 3 months.

[Nalien]

They specifically said they want Yugiri to teach us to be Ninjas. So either they make 2.2 a requirement, since that's the only way for Yugiri to actually be here, they create a paradox through poor writing/planning, or they once again go back on what they've previously said.

I really don't see a problem with them locking the Job behind 2.2, if people have a problem with this now, they're going to throw a fit when it turns out they actually have to purchase the expansion to unlock its new Jobs. They'll probably cry "Pay 2 Win!" since you cannot play Red Mage without purchasing an expansion...

[Urielparadox]

Saying you can't learn ninja because of storyline Is like saying all new player get to see mor dhona progress. They don't certain things in earzea are constantly changing. According to lore with Rev toll where it's at yugiri and her people are easy made present, with the explanation of how they got there in the storyline. Rogue, as than cred shows us. Already exist in the game, ano he picks up ninja super fast, so rwally they just need a than rid type nic to travel to yugioh land and traon, then return. Yugioh doesn't even have to be part of ninjas story.