Relic upgrade and your thoughts

[waldo]

As we all know, the upgrade from novus to nexus involves a spiritbond type system where lights with varying strengths are farmed. It's a very simple a straight forward system that ties in coil, expert instances, primal fights, and fates. A variable slew of ways to farm lights. It is however all the same, from start to finish. Start the quest, farm the light, turn the quest in and finish.

I've seen in the past where players have requested more of a 'grind' with the relic quest line, but this is the first we've seen the quest go the route of 100% grind. Before 2.38 the quest line has always had tiers of progression. First it was primal fights, and then atmas (12 tiers), and then the 9 books, and then the 75 alexandrite chest.

I'm not saying this is a bad thing or a good thing, I'm just interested in how the player base feels about the change in philosophy with the move from tiered completion to 100% grind. The devs do listen, so here's your chance to let them know if the relic stages are moving into a more fun direction or if you feel things are lacking.

Myself, I'm just happy they haven't mandated fates this time.

[MidlaneGod]

The only thing i dont like is i cant play my other classes for bonuses on roulettes but im happy that there is no more rng, wasting time waiting for a fate to pop, or gil sink.

[Black91CRX]

I like it. Gets people using the DF again. Plus it distracts people from the Hunt!

[RakaMaimhov]

I think this was an incredibly lazy cop out for the developers to use something this simple and grindy as an entire stage of the relic weapon.

[Wyrmnus]

My gripe is that it'll cause forced Speed runs to happen. Those are always an inconvenience for those that want to grind for EXP in dungeons. And when you do stand up for what's right and say something, they outright disrespect you and ignore you.

[RyuDragnier]

My gripe is that it'll cause forced Speed runs to happen. Those are always an inconvenience for those that want to grind for EXP in dungeons. And when you do stand up for what's right and say something, they outright disrespect you and ignore you.

The speed runners for dungeons are fools...wait for it to pop on Mog/Garuda/Ifrit HM, and then burn them down fast. Over the course of 2 hours I saw around 40 clears of Garuda HM because we burned through her that fast. You can't get that kind of time on dungeons.

[Errors]

I have a question for the folks who don't like it. Do you have any recommendations that on what you'd personally like to see implemented?

I ask because I personally dislike seeing just pure complaints. That doesn't offer any insight on a possible direction or fix. I'm not saying I'll agree or disagree with your recommendation but it might spur up an idea in another person and start a conversation. Now that type of dialog is much more valuable than your typical, "OMG THIS SUCKS FIX IT NOWS OR I'LL UNSUB".

[Millen1]

I really like this new part to relic. I enjoyed novus. It was a certain number, 75 and at the end you had novus. This is the same with out a large materia cost. I enjoy running my main class through all types of content I like but have had no reason to do before as relic sent me generally away from current content with the ATMA FATEs and 9 books. I know it keeps us looked to our relic weapon class but that works for me. I am looking to do Finish the ATMA farming I started for Scholar. Doing the whm novus to nexus, I am going to max out on myth fast and I would rather buy 9 Animus books than waste the myth on random things. I have kept up with the maps and had 25 alex ready to go for the sch book also, so that is another time saver. Enjoy the new relic quest line, it is the best so far.

[Limecat]

This upgrade is nice due to no RNG, but also because it's inadvertently become the most hilarious bit of content yet. All these trials with one new player or someone in i60ish, who then completely panics as the seven people upgrading to a nexus rip the primals to pieces. XD

[Niqote]

I think it's great. No Gil, no RNG - just purely playing the game.

It's great for those who want to charge through it without mercy because they can.
It's great for those who want to chip at it an hour a day because they can.

Yay!