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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    This data is highly inaccurate if you try to compare it to the reality, they are counting up people who don't play anymore and are also counting bots.
    But mostly it's hard for them to tell because it shows what class are unlocked, which means that even if you don't play it in dungeons it's considered unlocked, it should do something like stats of how many time someone queued as a DPS, Tank or Healer or only count the most played job of each player, so that we can see what role is most played.
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    that the whole trouble with this number, where lie the reality into this... it's impossible to know exept by asking us! look at page of number it's nice, but human are not number!
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    So is there more Hellsguard Roegadyn than Seawolf? Was always curious on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
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    No it's not hard, they have access to every possible data they could log, including who queued as what, but that would require them to work with the active population, and this whole census was based on total subs, note that they know what's the active population, but they would never use it for something like this, because this is pure PR.

    Whenever they show numbers it will be referenced to the total amount of players subbed, because saying "nearly 3 million subs" looks more impressive than "500k active subs".

    If they wanted something accurate with class roles they would only count very specific encounters within the last few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Actually, to me it suggests they pulled numbers out of thin air and thought "Everyone must be rich by now".

    After all, if dividing that sum up evenly results in a horribly low sum, then it's clear that a far smaller number have the Lion's share of the wealth. Thus, only a few are considered 'rich' while the majority should be considered poor. Even taking into account active accounts versus inactive, it's still a pitiful sum of gil overall which only goes to show how out of touch they must've been when working on their maths.
    What he's saying is they used REAL statistics...a proper distribution...rather than a flat average which would have generated that low number per person. They DID nix the outliers on both ends of the gil spectrum and probably generated a window of 1 standard deviation on either side of the mean to use for targeting the pricing for the small houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    What he's saying is they used REAL statistics...a proper distribution...rather than a flat average which would have generated that low number per person. They DID nix the outliers on both ends of the gil spectrum and probably generated a window of 1 standard deviation on either side of the mean to use for targeting the pricing for the small houses.
    Probably also dropped anyone without a level 50 from these numbers first and the total level 50 population cannot be more than 1.698 million.
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    I'd be more interested in the median income of players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    that the whole trouble with this number, where lie the reality into this... it's impossible to know exept by asking us! look at page of number it's nice, but human are not number!
    actually we are.

    their numbers are facts your opinion is not.
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    I was hoping to see statistics showing the number of players who have cleared each respective Coil Turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    I was hoping to see statistics showing the number of players who have cleared each respective Coil Turn.
    Yes the information presented there is more obvious things which just shows you that all the jobs are being used, all 3 GCs are used, people of both genders exist...

    But I don't know what the answer would be on player progress. How many people have beaten Twintania? 4% 20%? I don't know.
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