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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    For certain content (FATEs, etc.), but you can't have 8 people working on downing Garuda (EX) and throw more people at it and expect anything, any extra people would be spectators who fetch coffee at best. Worst, and much more likely, case they end up as an annoyance that gets in the way and actually slows down progress. No matter what it's a waste of manpower though and wouldn't happen; either they work on housing or they're pretty much out of the job.
    You missed the point of the joke so I'm going to assume you haven't played older mmos lol In a time without all this instanced everything, you literally could just throw more players at something and it'd die
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    High priority? What they added in 2.38 was fundamentally no different than what they added in 2.1, I don't think we've been losing endgame content for them to introduce this.

    Plus, you know, different teams working on different things. If they dropped the housing team it doesn't mean the Coil team suddenly works faster, it just means we don't have housing.
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    Because loud people wanted houses and made a fuss

    Also you can edit your first post to get past the 1k thing
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    Valentyne Laska
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madoka View Post
    Because loud people wanted houses and made a fuss

    Also you can edit your first post to get past the 1k thing
    They promised to take player feedback seriously, yet anytime we get something designed based on player feedback it's implemented as an afterthought. Maybe if they just picked one really good player suggestion that can be shown to have a lot of positive feedback in surveys to focus on up to expansion we wouldn't keep running into these messes every other patch.
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    In my opinion housing and vanity gear is more important than other stuff.
    It silly to use "important stuff" since whats important is up to the player
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    Mijin Gakure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    In my opinion housing and vanity gear is more important than other stuff.
    It silly to use "important stuff" since whats important is up to the player
    Well I never used the term "important stuff", I realize what's important is suggestive. I just asked if housing is that important to everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I'm not sure how you think housing has been a development time sink.

    After they released it the only thing they have done is flipped a switch and added new expensive wards, flipped another code switch and allowed individual players with pockets lined with gold to buy housing as well.

    Sure must have taken up alot of time to do that.
    I know you played in 1.0 because I remember your sig, so you are well aware of how much time they've spend on it during the production of 2.0 up through now. I'm not only speaking in regards to 2.38, so while I get that you are trying to be facetious, I honestly don't understand how you can believe that. The graphics, the concept art, the scenario design, the zones, the stress testing, the allocation of server space, etc. All of this took a considerable amount of time, and what my point is was it really worth it, and moving forward with the game do we really need to focus on housing that much more in the future?

    Also, the point of my post wasn't really to argue how high of a priority it is; I just was wondering how many people consider it a priority at all. As for myself I couldn't care less about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    It's simple: a lot of content is gated through housing. Gardening and everything that comes with it, along with all of the new chocobo content. People want access to these things, so housing is the Big Deal™ right now. Personally, my FC has a Medium house already so we're not really worried about it but I can certainly see why people are in an uproar about the short supply of housing. Every last Small plot on my server was gone within a few hours of the servers coming online from the maintenance. The Mediums are starting to disappear too.

    BTW, you can edit posts to bypass the 1000 character limit. :3
    Yeah, but that's kind of my point, they made it that way because they want housing to feel important, they didn't have to design it that way.
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    Last edited by Mijin; 09-21-2014 at 02:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Yeah, but that's kind of my point, they made it that way because they want housing to feel important, they didn't have to design it that way.
    Oh. Well then the answer is your question is 'because SE wanted it that way'. o.o

    For whatever reason, they wanted the content gated/restricted. *shrug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    All of this took a considerable amount of time.
    So let me get this your upset because of all the time that has allready been spent on housing?

    So your litteraly crying over spilt milk.

    What's done is done, they spent a bunch of time on a half baked housing system, released it way before it should have, and have had to continually battle community backlash at the poor implementation. All that time is allready been spent crying about how many people actually want it (Trust me it's a big thing for the casual side of things, good housing system can pull players from allover to the game)

    But even if there was only 1 guy who wanted it, it's too late now to cry about the time that's been spent on it.

    As it stands for now they are spending an obvious ammount of time (none) on doing anything with housing considering the promises for personal housing turned from being a whole new thing into flipping a FC ownership switch for permission to own a house.
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    Player Mijin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    So let me get this your upset because of all the time that has allready been spent on housing?

    So your litteraly crying over spilt milk.

    What's done is done, they spent a bunch of time on a half baked housing system, released it way before it should have, and have had to continually battle community backlash at the poor implementation. All that time is allready been spent crying about how many people actually want it (Trust me it's a big thing for the casual side of things, good housing system can pull players from allover to the game)

    But even if there was only 1 guy who wanted it, it's too late now to cry about the time that's been spent on it.

    As it stands for now they are spending an obvious ammount of time (none) on doing anything with housing considering the promises for personal housing turned from being a whole new thing into flipping a FC ownership switch for permission to own a house.
    I'm not upset over anything actually, just curious how many people actually care about housing so much that it should be a top priority, and judging from most of the responses here so far it seems like it really is, so my question has been answered for the most part. When I brought up all the work they've done in the past I wasn't complaining, I was just correcting you because you said they've done nothing, and I don't feel that's accurate.

    They can do what ever they want with their game, I have no right to get upset, I can be disappointed at times, but that's my problem. Like I've said several times now, I just want to know if people really care about housing, my OP is so sweet I should have put rainbows and carebears in between each paragraph, this isn't me trying to start a fight by saying "I DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE", we all know how well those types of posts go on forums. Besides, I like housing, I just feel like it should take a major back seat to other content, like I said dozens of times already I was just curious how others felt.

    As for how much time they will be spending on it in the future, you can rest assured that they'll be spending a considerable amount of time between now and 2.4 sorting out the issue with personal housing, and making more plots available. If it was an easy fix they would have had it ready for 2.38. Who know what more the future will hold, It's likely they have plans for more housing related content.
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    Last edited by Mijin; 09-21-2014 at 03:50 AM.

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    Shuu Naranol
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    I'm not sure it's "high priority"; however, from the player's side, it would be great because it's like the easiest fun content (if implemented right), just collecting stuff and decorating the place you can call yours the way you want, until you have your dream home - from the dev's side, it could be the easiest gil/time sink (again, if implemented right), because all the energy investment it would need to "complete" (which, again if implemented right, ideally, could not be achieved - ever). But that's just my 2 gil.
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