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    Player
    Amberion's Avatar
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    Amberion Eurelt
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    Snip!
    When I stopped playing, I had little over 1mil Gil. And I never actively farmed Gil. Never bothered with it since the item market for me in this game is kinda crap.

    You can't convince me that people with less then 1mil Gil has done any serious Gil farming. Or they spent it on something else.

    As for the whole not enough plots. Well that is the biggest issue and where SE needs to step up fast.
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    You tell me which individual has this amount of money?
    Balmung being legacy and people playing since '11, I just can't imagine anyone having 30mill to almost 90 mill in savings. I really can't.
    Leviathan is new for 2.0 I REALLY don't know how anyone can manage that in a year unless ya'll a RMT.
    I make 2-4 million gil in a few hours of pressing two buttons every minute. It amazes me how people can't see that people have this kind of gil.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    I make 2-4 million gil in a few hours of pressing two buttons every minute. It amazes me how people can't see that people have this kind of gil.
    Market board has been inflated but the rest of the world has not, it is easy to make money if you do very particular tasks that have received inflation due to rmt and players who play the game for a living. (Rmt on legacy servers in particular did Gil generating botting which is worse than just playing the market for money to rmt, though rmt does materia too)

    SE priced housing based off the market wards, anyone who doesn't play the market and not play a lot for a long time is going to see the prices and be like 0_0? Lol

    Luckily part of economics is demand so not all items on the boards are silly. I think it is easy to see how some people see the price as cheap and others see it as too damn high, lol, because there are two markets really. For those who don't want to play the board they will be pushed to rmt (or a grind seriously different).

    Still the worst part of this system is the availability. Pricing sucks for people not part of the inflated market but we can help people with that issue, availability on the other hand... (I want a large house? Too bad, small? Too bad, i want a house in mist- too bad only goblet left). Wasn't crazy for wild star but the house system certainly would smoke this one out of its hole.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-21-2014 at 11:35 AM.

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    Cynthis Ravenbrook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    No, what is driving them towards RMT is themselves and their laziness. Blaming the devs for players deciding to buy Gil, is like blaming the merchants for banks being robbed.
    First of all, human beings are fundamentally lazy. Arguing against human nature doesn't change it. We all seek the path of least resistance, as well we should. Second, even if I agreed with the notion that housing in an MMO should be an achievement (Which I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT), then if you want to combat RMT, you don't gate that content behind gil, the one thing that RMTs supply. It simply does not make sense.
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynthis View Post
    then if you want to combat RMT, you don't gate that content behind gil, the one thing that RMTs supply. It simply does not make sense.
    It make sense if you don't want RMT buying the plots to invade the market with cheap Thavnairian Onions, produced by gardening bots. Make it expensive enough so the RMT don't see a win to invest into plots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zebyxus View Post
    Something else I would like to know, is if the Gold Saucer is going to be a casino in line with FF7's version (where minigames are held to earn gil) or is it only going to be a time-killer with a few items?
    It should be more like a theme park. Also the Golden Saucer in FF 7 was more a theme park than a casino. The only casino like content was Chocobo racing, if I remember it right.
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    Last edited by Felis; 09-21-2014 at 10:41 PM.

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    Alukah Bast
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    They could arbitrarily come up with "must do T9 25 times and must have a HA weapon in order to unlock third coil" as requirement and there will ALWAYS be someone who plays the "its meant to be a challenge" card, usually followed by a ridiculous statement of others wanting a handout.

    Sorry but no, not every bad choice devs take is equal to a challenge, learn to identify bad decisions.
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    Sorry but no, not every bad choice devs take is equal to a challenge, learn to identify bad decisions.
    and not every choice you feel is bad actually is. it's called an opinion for a reason.
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    Ukaei Ukaei
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    Inventory space... I don't think they'll increase the cap on free retainers.

    However, it's probably likely that they'll increase the number of retainers you can subscribe to.


    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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    Sho Ryuuken
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    Quesse, you act as if they never posted about the very obvious lack of wards immediately after patch 2.38. They even apologize preemptively before the deluge of complaints they knew they were going to get as well. You can keep thinking that people complaining would have fixed the situation, but it is not so.
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    Spetlana Slovington
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    Malboro
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Didn't ask him about the possibility of having Private Inn Rooms?

    If everyone could have a room, without needing a Free Company that has a house already, I think a lot of the heat would die down. Only remaining issue would be Gardening in such rooms, but I believe that's something they're already working on, so whatever.

    I have absolutely no problem with the housing wards being a "Look how much Gil I had" d*ck waving zone, provided they give everyone an alternative. Alternatives is really what's causing a lot of issues with content lately... No housing alternative. No Allied Seals alternative. They started off giving us things like tomestones for literally everything, and now they're doing the opposite with new content... Kinda odd...
    An alternative to garden is all I care about... Give me that and you can sell houses for a billion for all I care
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