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  1. #1
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluevann View Post
    FC houses to me should have required actual Company work. Such as "Earn XXXX amoung of Company Credits, Clear Raid X times, Defeat X amount of EX Primals with only FC members in your party" and so on. That's how I'd like to earn my FC all.
    That's actually how it can work. Back before I realized everyone in my Free Company sucked, I had us doing such content for the sole purpose of getting those crafting materials. Sure, there's nothing stopping you buying such items (or even furniture), but if you go with a group you've going to eventually get the drop and it'll go to your Free Company rather than a random and overall it saved you Gil that can otherwise go towards the house.

    Earning money for the land was also something you can do together, Treasure Maps were great for this. Eight people, all with one map, that will net you around 100,000 Gil minimum from doing all the maps (over 300,000 Gil maximum), and that's all before you consider the other items that drop from the chests which went for a lot back then. Everyone just needs to donate the 1,600~5,000 Gil they get per map to the Free Company and, as a group, you're earning that house easily.
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Tonberry
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    Botanist Lv 100
    I think it would be nice to emphasize to him that there is a problem because individual people are forced to be in competition with whole FCs.

    Having a separate (and hopefully, upgrade able/more detailed) personal housing system for individuals would have been better received by the players - even if it were instanced as long as it had nice yard space/scenery.

    If they were linked to the one account (ie. my alternative character has the same permissions and access to my Personal house) then it would eliminate the problem of rich players buying up many homes thus leaving more for everyone.
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    Mystique Blackheart
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 50
    My problem with housing is gil and availability. I managed to save 1 mil gil. and no I do not "laze" around (I thought that was rather insulting). Also on my server every small plot, cept Ul'dah (yuck) has been sold. So in 2.4 there will be more plots available, but I doubt very highly I'm gonna have 5 mil gil. So I will still be locked out. No housing should not be an achievement. Gear and weapons should be achievements, not housing.
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    Daiza Auvec
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Has anyone noticed that just about every person who managed to speak to Yoshi-P about this housing issue have all been about the price and never about the lack of actual space?
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimate3 View Post
    Has anyone noticed that just about every person who managed to speak to Yoshi-P about this housing issue have all been about the price and never about the lack of actual space?
    Blame the community for focusing on it so much; he didn't even really lie about the price, just the fact that prices would be separate. Just go look back at 2.1s patch notes (which they even linked in the 2.38 patch notes) for the old prices; Lowest price for a small was 4,000,000 and now it's 2,000,000. Highest price for a large was 625,000,000 and now it's 87,500,000. All before prices depreciate.

    Prices have come down a lot over the past nine months. The only lie is that he said prices for Personal and Free Company Housing would be separate, when they're not. People complaining about price haven't been putting effort into saving Gil (or they've just been doing it wrong and should read the post I made somewhere on how to print Gil), the only issue outside them screaming is that of the number of plots not meeting demand, an issue not helped by the fact they have individuals and companies competing.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 09-20-2014 at 09:17 PM.

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    Apricoth Daenya
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 70
    The big complaint is SPACE. COST is not as relevant.
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    Like a lot of people already said price is NOT the major problem with housing...it's the availability that the biggest problem so as far as I am concerned you wasted your question towards him. There is only enough houses especially small ones for less than a couple percent of the entire player base even after 2.4 no matter how much gil you have there is still only enough for a microscopic fraction of players in this game. Someone needs to push him on that not the price. Everyone who plays can save up and earn enough to buy one (if was enough plots) but only a couple percent can actually get one in reality as it stands now and after 2.4, locking around 98% of the player base out of the possibility of owning one regardless of how much gil you might have because there is not enough plots even after 2.4.

    Most people thought buying a personal house would only be few million based on his claim from before earlier in the year and prior to him changing the meaning of his comment only after the patch came out so he might not have lied but he sure as hell misled people, they did not save up or retain 40-80mil gil for personal house and spent most of the gil on other things leaving only enough that they thought would be enough and that is the main reason why some servers have large plots etc remaining. If they knew he would screw them over in such a big way they would of saved up a hell of a lot more prior to patch coming out and you would have had zero medium or large plots left too within minutes or couple hours. The problem not being addressed at all, not even with the crappy 2.4 quantity they plan to bring in is there will still not be enough plots for even a fraction of the player base even if they save up for it now that people know you need 40-80mil to get one at all on most servers as just like when 2.38 came out most servers sold out of smalls in seconds and the same will happen in 2.4.

    If you want a pat on the back for asking him a pointless question about pricing which matters a thousand times less than availability, sorry but not getting one from me because you failed to actually grasp the real problem and failed to ask him about that problem. You are just like he is, out of touch by focusing on price instead of availability. This is the way it currently works with 100% of players have the option of saving up enough to buy one if one existed, 98% of players have no chance and no option of buying one no matter how much gil they save because not enough exists now or after 2.4. As such price vs availability, the latter is the problem here not the former so I wish people would stop being so ignorant on the issue only focusing about price like you did when had chance to get to the root of real problem when questioning him which is availability.
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    Last edited by Snugglebutt; 09-20-2014 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quesse Mithril
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 70
    Yoshi: If you don't have enough gil for housing you're not trying hard enough.

    lol.
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    Yawn Alexander
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    there would be no RMT issues if they didn't make all of the vanity items cost so much in time/gil. Make gill worthless and the RMTs won't have a job.

    That said, gil is in no way at all the problem people have with personal housing.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    there would be no RMT issues if they didn't make all of the vanity items cost so much in time/gil. Make gill worthless and the RMTs won't have a job.

    That said, gil is in no way at all the problem people have with personal housing.
    Actually it's half and half with the community. Some say it's too pricey while others it's lack of lots. My rebuttal for lots is this, 2.38 only added 160 lots per server which isn't a lot but if he would have pushed back housing to 2.4 you would still be waiting.
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