Latest comment from Yoshida regarding Housing + Inventory space issue

[xXRaineXx]

To counter everything you just said with a simple statement.

Technically speaking, Yoshida never actually made those 'English' statements. Yoshida only makes statements in Japanese and I have personally confirmed he is inadequate when it comes to the English Language and incapable of proper English speech.

The word fundamental as you described it technically does not exist in the Japanese language, there are always issues with 'professional' translations where certain meanings are often misdelivered. Specially with Japanese words, which is often pointed out to be '微妙' (bimyou). This word does not have a direct English translation, but in the gist of it means 'to be confusing, unsure, strangely odd' or anything along those lines.

As an example try translate this Japanese sentence.
-あの本は微妙に変なかんじです。

Now that said... take away the gil issue, because many people have not said it'a about the gil

That's not what I see. I see people complaining about 3 things in a equal manner; COST/WARDS/GARDENING.

You say many people say they do not mind the gil, but I see many people who DO mind the gil. You only see things the way you see it because it doesn't affect you. You can't take away the gil issue. Because it IS part of the issue. There were many posts about how players could not make gil and could not fathom how the devs expected them to buy a house.

99,900,000.00

Even if they indeed made this amount;

1. Monthly paycheck for each employee would be around $3000-$10000 depending on the crucial position. The team for XIV is handled by SE's 3rd Division which is comprised of approx 70 employees (give or take).
2. Server maintenance (god knows how expensive this is).
3. Purchase of new resources such as new server hardware, installing and debugging may require additional hires.
4. Good portion in return to SE.HQ;
5. 400,000,000 approx spent down the drain during the development of 1.0, which SE is still not over with.
6. Current development of 3.0.
7. 2.4
8. Live letters/events etc
9. Yoshida who always look tired.
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10. Not to mention keeping the servers running 24/7 will have your electricity bills off the roof.
11. Then you have the development gear like PC's, consoles, sound gear and whatnot which needs to be updated with new gear so that they can be tested for compatibility.
12. This list can go 4eva.

You seem to miss the vital wider prospect in your comments.

'Oh many people said they don't mind gil, take that out of consideration' - Does not mean it ain't a issue.

That is simple I+G+N+O+R+A+N+C+E - 9+7+14+15+18+1+14+3+5 = 86%

[Snugglebutt]

If there were more plots, then maybe this scenario would be different. But at the current time, plots are limited. The dev team knew they could not deliver on the plots so they probably thought of all the possible outcomes. More plots will be released with 2.4, probably more with 3.0.

Personal Housing was a feature promised back from before RR was even released and before most of the content you enjoy today had been implemented so you saying we should be content or happy to wait an additional year on top of all the years those of us who wanted one from prior to RR is an insult especially considering even after waiting a year they could mess it up yet again just like they have this time around. Will you turn around then too and say quit complaining, wait to see if they fix it another year later? Not a single person here has an infinite amount of patience and for legacy players like myself we have been patient for many years already, watching as everyone else gets things they want but the thing we were promised before all of their content is ignored...then when finally comes out it is a complete and utter joke at our expense, the most lazy and incompetent way they could of handled it so asking us to be patient for even more years after such is taking it too far. We were promised personal housing as a feature long before you got your beloved FC rooms, most of your raid content or dungeons and more.

Personal housing should of been released and done well before FC's had rooms added to them as FC's being used for living in was not even a blip on the radar back then. In my opinion FC's should not even have any rooms in it for housing as personal housing should of been implemented first and foremost with it being open to any and all players not 1-2% of the player base...FC headquarters is a more adequate term for what we have now in my opinion and having bedrooms in that headquarters is weird. An FC is a place of business as far as I am concerned, a place to work maybe hang out with others who work in the same free company and it should not be a place to live. I do not know many companies that allow for their employee's or members to all sleep in the place of business or at their company headquarters. A place of business or company shouldn't have bedrooms in it, in my opinion it should be the other way around where you had your company headquarters and personal houses separate with one being corporate and the other residential.

Putting rooms in them was merely a stop gap measure while they worked on personal housing but instead of working on personal housing all they did was change direction and use this stop gap feature by changing the variables in code from just FC to FC and individuals of which they then copy and pasted two more wards and of which probably only took them couple hours to do out of more than 4 years they were supposed to have been working on it...it is the most lazy and incompetent thing for them to possibly do outside of doing nothing. I think the two things should of been separate, personal housing and FC headquarters, live in one and work/hang out in the other. While I do not expect many to agree with me, that is what I would of preferred and it would of involved doing personal housing right in conjunction with FC headquarters and not using FC headquarters as a half arsed cop-out by sticking bedrooms in it.

I said it before and will say again...100% of players currently have to option of saving up to buy one if one existed for them to buy so price is not the major problem regardless of what some people think given there is nothing stopping them from saving up, but 98% of players are locked out of the option of buying one because there is only enough plots for around 2% of the player base no matter how much gil they have and that is a major problem. If you do not see a problem with that then you have a problem. I plan to complain until they fix this issue and I expect I am not alone in that until they allow any and all the option of buying a personal house not just a microscopic portion of the player base. You are quite welcome not to enter the complaint threads until they do and maybe you will have to wait a year seeing such threads until it gets fixed. But I am sure your happy or content with doing that...just like you think we should be in regards to waiting a year of which they might resolve it by then.

The only factor limiting peoples ability to own a personal house should of been how much gil it costs not how many plots exist since the former is open to all to partake but the latter is not. Another thing that annoys me is they have known for a long time since the implementation of FC plots that people do not like the fact it is all based around a land grab race and Squeenix should of been well aware of this yet they only made things worse now instead of fixing what so many complained about in the first place. Now we have even more competition for land and even worse land grabbing race which is the opposite outcome of what people complained about and wanted resolved.

[PandoraSyn]

I like the idea of private rooms in the FC house. Our FC is a small to medium size and we all are social with each other so the fact that we have a place to call are own and a place we can call ours in the same spot is perfect for us. I feel like most people forget that MMO's are supposed to be social games. As some one who has mastered all crafters I would love to see more inventory room but I am not going to come on here and be rude about it. If you don't feel they use our money wisely or don't do what you want just go play another game...

[Shougun]

If you don't feel they use our money wisely or don't do what you want just go play another game...

Or you can tell them about what issues you find. I'm 100% sure if they had the option of knowing their problems vs people just up and leaving, they'd pick the first option.

I'm not saying people are allowed to be rude because of that (that's what moderators are for I thought XD), but I don't think in a feedback* forum, for a company that wants our money, that this is a good suggestion.


*I'm well aware this is GD, but GD does not exclude feedback it just has less barrier to entry for topic (its the lazy and popular area to discuss lol).

[Cendres]

Thank you Raine for asking this question to Yoshi personally! o/

My opinion on the matter is that he is not understanding what we expect of personal housing. And while that's unfortunate, I respect his decision and will work hard to afford my estate.

However it annoys me that the attitude towards housing is one of achievement, while okay a part of it could be, like trophies or furnishings that is hard to find/make, the housing itself should not be part of that. Not everything in the game absolutely has to be about overcoming challenges, sometimes it's nice to have a side thing to come back to from achieving things and mess around with.

Again in the end that's fine in itself, what's done is done. It just makes me nervous about other 'casual' content added later on that turns out to not be casual at all. It's weird, things that should be very hard are made easier, and things that should be easy are mode harder in this game. lolol...

[Fendred]

There are several conflicting interests at play with the housing because people wanted player housing for different reasons, and by introducing the concept of free company housing they added a different dynamic to housing that didn't exist before. So from the player's perspective, we have...

(1) The desire for personal housing to do solo oriented tasks and have a high level of control over the aesthetics of the room/house. (What people originally wanted)
(2) The desire for Free Company housing to do large scale things together with FC members and where the aesthetic is determined communally. (Conceptually introduced back in 2.1)

All they need to do to solve this would be to create grand company personal housing similar to the rooms FC members can buy for themselves and let players do all the solo oriented things (like gardening and chocobo rearing) from the room. The housing district idea works better communally than individually, not to mention it is just dripping with story potential that could be harnessed to build some great content.

[Chasely]

Gil-P said there aren't enough instance servers for personal housing. Plus, it doesn't feel like a house if it's instanced... Obviously, he's a complete idiot. It will take MUCH more server resources to increase the number of FC housing wards 100-fold.

[Nalien]

Gil-P said there aren't enough instance servers for personal housing. Plus, it doesn't feel like a house if it's instanced... Obviously, he's a complete idiot. It will take MUCH more server resources to increase the number of FC housing wards 100-fold.

I really don't know what to say... A MMO released in 2002, for the PS2, could manage personal housing for everyone through instances, and here we are in 2014 and the same company is failing to reproduce the same results... Next gen technologies at work, I suppose...

The fact that Free Companies already offer this makes such a comment even more perplexing... Surely it's easier to add more instance servers to allow absolutely everyone to have a Private Room, than it is to add more Wards and still annoy 98% of the population? It doesn't even matter that it doesn't feel like a house, how about a damn poll asking us what we'd prefer? Since the developers are apparently incapable of taking a player consensus based off forum posts, because if they were they'd realize most people really don't care about housing being instanced or not... People just want something to furnish... Damn sure not going to accomplish that any time soon with this current mentality...

[KaiKatzchen]

To counter everything you just said with a simple statement.

Technically speaking, Yoshida never actually made those 'English' statements. Yoshida only makes statements in Japanese and I have personally confirmed he is inadequate when it comes to the English Language and incapable of proper English speech.

The one quote was on the FFXIV ARR website posted on the news area back in November. So if it was mistranslated, then maybe they need to get people to work for SE who can translate what he's saying better. This was not some random quote from a article, or something that a person on the forums translated. It was an official English post made by SE.

Even if they indeed made this amount;

Your List...

Yes and that is what the money is going towards, and even you say on your list new servers, hardware, installing and debugging, etc... so why are we having technical limitations 1 year into the game? All your list shows me is that you agree that they should be putting money into upgrading, maintaining the game and people who work on this game, and if that is the case why do we have technical limitations this early on? Which was exactly my point.

But SE has the money to spend on opening up a cafe for people to go eat at.

'Oh many people said they don't mind gil, take that out of consideration' - Does not mean it ain't a issue.

That is simple I+G+N+O+R+A+N+C+E - 9+7+14+15+18+1+14+3+5 = 86%

And if ignorance is being able to see all of the issues that are arising from this, lack of space, lack of clarification, technical limitations 1 year into the game etc... and the fact that he had a pre-written apology letter because he knew people would be upset, and not focusing on just one issue and continually bring it up, I'd rather be ignorant than blind.

Also you misquote me, (in reference to gil being a non-issue) I did mention the gil issue at the start, I just wasn't going to focus on it because other's have. I mentioned the gil issue at the start, and then said after that:

"Now that said... take away the gil issue, because many people have not said it's about the gil, and it's not about gil to me either. What do we have?"

Meaning, I'm not so much worried about the gil issues and others have stated this as well. Which is why, as you overlooked and never posted, I made the argument of new players who have just started playing and will start playing in the next year. Will there be houses for them to buy when they are able to get the gil?

Everyone is bringing up the gil issue, there is no need for me to argue it more because everything has been said (though I did mention it at times to show how it's causing other issues such as people buying them, and then selling them for 3 times the amount), but there is more to this mess than gil. If you look past that and take away the gil issue what other issues do arise from this implementation, which I listed the other issues besides the gil issue. I never said gil is a non-issue 100% and every single person who plays this game is 100% fine an dandy with it.

My main point was this: You look at everything all together, not just one thing, and this was badly implemented on all sides of the coin. As you said, yourself:

You only see things the way you see it because it doesn't affect you.

My post was about showing all the issues with this implementation, not just the gil issue, because what you might see as an issue, another might not. Its more than the lack of wards, the gardening and the gil. Its about many things. No instances just for private housing, FC and Personal being mixed together and people having to fight over plots etc... to say that the point I was trying to make is wrong because 'the gil issue doesn't affect me' is like saying that all the other reasons are a non-issue because you don't feel they affect you.

I didn't need to argue the gil issue to death, people have already argued it to death. I did not ignore the issue, I said that I was going to bypass it because there were some who said it was a non-issue. And if it was honestly a non-issue to them, then what were the issues with this implementation? What did others have to be upset with as well. Argue about the gil, its fine, but when that is the only issue that is brought up and SE says 'fine fine' and lowers the price.

But if you still have FC's and single players fighting over lots, and still don't have enough housing for people to buy, and still have lack of wards due to technical limitations what did it get you? Nothing, because they were non-issues and its all about the gil and gardening I suppose.

That was my point, you have to address ALL sides of the coin, not the popular complains and bypass everything else.

[Fendred]

I really don't know what to say... A MMO released in 2002, for the PS2, could manage personal housing for everyone through instances, and here we are in 2014 and the same company is failing to reproduce the same results... Next gen technologies at work, I suppose...

It's messed up because they tried to do something too ambitious in too short a time. My instructor for an android development class was teaching a group of graduate students in a previous semester who all agreed to collectively build a video game for their class project. Long story short, what they were able to accomplish and what they had envisioned were two entirely different things. The housing is a good example of how that looks when a team of professionals run into the same problem. The primary difference being their's actually functions with unintended consequences whereas a group of students will be lucky to have something running at all. It's an idea that needed more time and testing than what was given.