Latest comment from Yoshida regarding Housing + Inventory space issue

[Cylla]

I agree that buying recent plots/houses then selling them is kinda underhanded. But the screen you posted is prob just a person/small FC trying to sell their house because they either don't want it anymore, want a bigger house or leaving the game. My reasoning is due to the fact that it is on Ward 1, which came out ages ago.

But yea, there are honest and dishonest plot sellers.

Yes, the first one (screenshot) is a FC. However, it a small plot and shouldn't be sold for 15mil. As you said also, there are honest and dishonest people and when it comes to gil like that. Who to say the person that selling the plot is going to turn it over to you once you hand over that 15mil? There also the very odd chance that someone who was also seeing the ad in PF won't be standing there waiting for that plot to come undone and grab it out from under the person who bought it from the seller. See what I'm saying? This is another flaw in the housing system. In Aion, if someone lost their house (not keeping up the maint fees or owner didn't want anymore) it would go right back up on the auction for the price it started out at when housing came out in Aion.
This is not to say any of this will happen but can happen and if it does, SE going to have another mess on their hands.

[Linka]

Correct me if i am wrong, and i dont really have a source on my hand, but i am pretty sure that it was intendet from the start that ppl will be able to sell their plots on other players to their conditions. In some interview or some live letter/producer Lette Yoshi stated that, it was pretty long time ago though. Im not saying its good this way but it seems to be planned from the beginning

[abzoluut]

They know exactly how much gil every single player has? That's nice if they can do a quick scan just like that. We have to give them credit for that!

Wait a second... How come there are still known gil buyers walking around?

[VolatileCore]

I want to add to the chorus of voices asking about the space. I had plenty of gil and got on when servers came online, and in under five minutes everything was sold out. How is that fair? I'd really like him to address this.

[Souljacker]

After thinking about it a bit, I have to wonder if YoshiP really made the comment that he thinks players that don't spend their time earning gil are just "lazing around" or if that is just the OP's personal feelings coming through in the report. I really hope that isn't YoshiP's attitude toward us. It's just condescending.

I thought about my average day in the game, and while I don't devote much time to actively earning gil, I DO spent a LOT of time accomplishing PvE related content. I'm actively working on a relic. I do my daily roulettes. I bang my head against t5 whenever I see a PF for it. I am always in the towers. I will hit up a hunt if the horde is in the zone I'm in. I'm working on improving my character.

I don't feel that I am in any way, shape, or form a "lazy" player. I accomplish things in game. I have several jobs at 50 and geared, and the rest are slowly coming up as I have time. I am trying to work in some crafting, but it's just not a big interest of mine. I don't want to play an economy mmo. I don't think all day about how to scam the AH and make money. I think about how to beat Twintania with a pug. I don't sit there and watch my piles of Gil grow. I get out into Eorzea and save the realm like a good adventurer is supposed to.

And at the end of it, I'd really like a small slice of the world to return to when it's all over. Check a plant or two. Say good night to Chococabra. SE keeps adding housing "options" to the game, but all of them have fallen so short of the mark it's not even funny. Considering how low the target was set, it's baffling that it could be this big a failure. It's not like this is their first mmo ever. They helped define the idea of player housing over a decade ago, and a good chunk of us who were asking for it had "Mog Houses" - sweet and simple - in mind.

XI was really bad with how much emphasis they put on catering to the crafting\gilmaking crowd and I never imagined it could ever get any worse, but here it is. The producer is calling players who actually want to experience the adventure part of the game lazy.

[Luvbunny]

After thinking about it a bit, I have to wonder if YoshiP really made the comment that he thinks players that don't spend their time earning gil are just "lazing around" or if that is just the OP's personal feelings coming through in the report. I really hope that isn't YoshiP's attitude toward us. It's just condescending.

THIS!! The main goal to play this game should NEVER be about earning gil - EVER!!! He needs to understand this. No players should be cock-blocked from experiencing the game has to offer because you do not have enough gill. I really do hope that was "mistranslated" - accusing the player base just "lazing around" is indeed condescending. The Focus of the game should be about adventuring and doing various activities (endgame or not) - and should never be about "manipulating the market" and botting for mining and harvesting to make millions of gils. Though there are market for that, it's called gilsellers aka RMT.... I can't believe they support this type of activities.... why not just open a cash shop and call it a day, and stop charging us subscription.

[Fendred]

THIS!! The main goal to play this game should NEVER be about earning gil - EVER!!! He needs to understand this. No players should be cock-blocked from experiencing the game has to offer because you do not have enough gill. I really do hope that was "mistranslated" - accusing the player base just "lazing around" is indeed condescending. The Focus of the game should be about adventuring and doing various activities (endgame or not) - and should never be about "manipulating the market" and botting for mining and harvesting to make millions of gils. Though there are market for that, it's called gilsellers aka RMT.... I can't believe they support this type of activities.... why not just open a cash shop and call it a day, and stop charging us subscription.

If he did say we were lazing around, that is deserving of an epic face palm. If that is the case, maybe its because, I don't know, the content isn't cutting it and they need to go back to the drawing board? Blaming the players for not liking the game enough to stick with it is cringe worthy. When player reactions are mixed, its important to understand both sides of the coin and adapt the game accordingly. If they need someone to act as an intermediary in reading feedback to avoid the vitriol and maintain their creative drive, then they should assign someone to do it other than the developers.

[Amberion]

Unlike him, some of us don't use this game as a job.

Gaming is a hobby though, and most hobbies involves putting some work in to it. So yes, feeling entitled to something without putting in the work for it, is being lazy.

So what if there are a thousand players that can afford it? That just means there are hundreds of thousands who can't and Yoshi is driving those in to the welcoming arms of gil sellers instead of reducing the demand for gil which is the only way to limit the supply. The stupidity and arrogance of using RMT as an excuse for the housing fiasco really pisses me off.

No, what is driving them towards RMT is themselves and their laziness. Blaming the devs for players deciding to buy Gil, is like blaming the merchants for banks being robbed.

I can understand people being upset that what they got, was not what was expected. But some complaints around this topic are just plain strange.

[Souljacker]

Gaming is a hobby though, and most hobbies involves putting some work in to it. So yes, feeling entitled to something without putting in the work for it, is being lazy.

Here's the problem with your comment regarding "entitlement". SE knew going into this that slapping the flagship title on this game would open the gates for comparisons to their earlier mmo. They shot themselves in the foot by making Mog Houses a basic part of the Adventurer package there, but somehow a monumental "achievement" here. It goes back to the developers basically telling us what to value in the game. If you aren't working on making money, you are a lazy and worthless human being who should just uninstall the game because you don't deserve to play it.

It's absurd and insulting and even the Japanese... the polite, quiet and respectful Japanese... are ripping him to shreds over this.

[Fendred]

Here's the problem with your comment regarding "entitlement". SE knew going into this that slapping the flagship title on this game would open the gates for comparisons to their earlier mmo. They shot themselves in the foot by making Mog Houses a basic part of the Adventurer package there, but somehow a monumental "achievement" here. It goes back to the developers basically telling us what to value in the game. If you aren't working on making money, you are a lazy and worthless human being who should just uninstall the game because you don't deserve to play it.

It's absurd and insulting and even the Japanese... the polite, quiet and respectful Japanese... are ripping him to shreds over this.

Exactly. Instead of expanding off the FFXI housing model, which many would be familiar with even if they didn't play the game simply due to others bringing it up, they approached the housing in a way players did not want or expect. It's frustrating because the player response was easily predictable in the framework of what makes the game successful, and it indicates they do not fully understand what is and isn't generally working for the players in their game.

They need to be doing a lot more surveys and research on what the players want out of the game so they can make informed design decisions.