I challenge you think hard about your housing qualms with SE

[reality_check]

I think these forums can be an incredible difficult place. On one hand, it's a great feed of live communication with other players and the development team of the game we all love.

On the other hand, I believe that sometimes it's very easy to form an opinion based off of the current band wagon mentality of the forums.

I challenge you think about the following points, and my replies, while doing the difficult task of putting your emotions to the side. In the end, just like every other human being, you're entitled to your opinion. But, your opinion is only more valid once you've seriously considered the other possible stances regarding this issue.

Housing is too expensive
But, is it? Every reward in an MMORPG comes with work. You wouldn't log onto an mmorpg and expect to be max level without any effort. You wouldn't expect to log into a new patch and be able to instantly grab the newest most powerful loot from new bosses.

MMORPGs are based off of delayed gratification and working hard for your goal. Housing is no different. If you only have 300,000G in your inventory, ask yourself: Have I truly been working towards affording a house? Have I been working as hard as I do in other aspects of the game? You probably spent a good 70-80 hours getting to level 50 for the first time. How many hours have you spent farming gil?

I'm saying it's too expensive based off what the developers said
I've heard a lot of things tossed around. Number one: the developers insinuated that 850k was the ballpark for housing. Number two: the developers said it would be less than Free Company housing.

You can currently purchase a house for ~1,500,000G after it is fully devalued (basing prices off of the middle category of pricing.) This is almost double what the 850k number is; however, it is consistent with costing significantly less than what Free Company housing was going for when the housing wards were initially released.

When the housing wards were initially released, I remember buying pineapple juice consistently for raiding at the price of <1000G. Now, I am lucky to buy it for 3000G. There are many examples like this to show that even though the initial plot prices have remained the same, there is a lot of inflation. If you compare relative buying power of gil, being able to afford a 1,500,000G fully devalued house is a LOT more doable than it was when the housing was initially released.

I have all the money I need for a house, but there aren't any small houses left!
Are you SURE there aren't any small houses left? If this is the actually the case, you're probably on a legacy server. And this is a valid complaint. There is no reason you shouldn't be able to buy a house if you have the gil.

But, the reality is that this isn't the case for most servers. I feel for the people who are out of luck on legacy servers though.

I don't want to compete with Free Companies to buy a house
I don't see this really as an issue. Most Free Companies bought houses long before the individual housing was released. If anything, I think sharing wards with Free Companies only creates for a neighbourhood with more people running around it, which is a very cool feel in an online game. And, more people to water your flowers for you.


Are you still upset about housing? You probably are. And that's fine. But just remember this:

This, too, will pass in time.

Think back to everything that have passed: login capacity at launch, incredibly high repair costs draining everyone's gil, instance capacity and waiting in AK queues for 60 minutes to get one run done, first Titan HM kills being glitchfests, warriors being useless tanks, being so excited to fight Behemoth and dying to an invisible mob at 1FPS, original housing being unaffordable, hunts have way to little HP, S ranks being invisible to 95% of people there.

Think about all of these things that upset us in the past. I look back and smile now. Did I enjoy the game still? Do I still enjoy the game? For me, the answer is yes.

[Mugiawara]

Should not take decades to buy a house in a game that's fluff content.
The end.

Oh and not everyone wants a small house.

[Musashidon]

1 se never said it was 850k what was said was 850 won't be enough.


secondly i would like you to find a post (cause i have no idea if it's true or not) where se said every player gets a personal house.

this was never (as far as i know) a feature toted as every single player gets one, only that personal housing was a thing.

[EdwinLi]

I find the issues currently is that they didn't prepare for the lack of room in the Large/medium population servers.

The ability to upgrade a Inn Room into a Personal Apartment or buy a Personal Apartment should be considered to provide some type of personal housing for Large/Medium populated servers or as a alternative for a Personal Home.

[Nalien]

I'm not particularly mad with housing anymore. I can afford my house once it depreciates enough. What I do take issue with is the sheer laziness of the developers; nine months and what have they done? Nothing. When it came to personal housing, all they did was flip a switch and let anyone buy a Free Company Estate. When it was frequently delayed I was at least hoping that they'd been working on something, but no. Remember when people were complaining that only Free Companies could purchase land in 2.1? What exactly stopped them from implementing this in 2.15? OK we'd still have supply issues, but at least I wouldn't be sitting here going "What the hell have you been doing these past months?".

secondly i would like you to find a post (cause i have no idea if it's true or not) where se said every player gets a personal house.

this was never (as far as i know) a feature toted as every single player gets one, only that personal housing was a thing.

If they designed it with "This is for the 1%" in mind, then they deserve all the hate they're getting, because that is stupid.

Absolutely everyone should have some form of housing, even if for the majority that ends up as Private Rooms (which is currently tied to Free Company Estates instead of Inns, so not adequate). If that were the case, Wards being for the 1% and Private Rooms for everyone else would be fine, but some how they spent nine months and didn't think to add Private Rooms to the Inn so everyone gets to furnish something.

[scarebearz]

Many many servers have no small houses left. Of the ones that do, I suspect many don't have small houses available in *all 3* areas. (I.e. Mist/LB/Goblet)

This affects small / newer FC's even more than individuals.

Most of your post sound like a SE Fan blindly defending their Obvious mistakes, to be honest.

(This is coming from someone who bought a Large house for an alt FC months ago, but even I can see what a mess SE has made of player housing...)

[Wobble]

Here's an interesting thread from December. As you can see some promised features are not even part of FC housing, but this article also talks about personal housing so they have had 9 months now to get it right and did not. I have come to terms with the fact that I can afford a house but can't get one due to being on a legacy server, but when they have had this in the works for 9 months and still fail then that's a problem on their end. To many promises being made and not enough being kept, one of which was primals being called in the open world, but I digress....

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...C-Housing-Info

[Jinrya-Geki]

I had no intention of buying a personal house, but if they had 9 months to work on it and it ended up like this...

What can we expect from the first expansion then?

[Morningstar1337]

I had no intention of buying a personal house, but if they had 9 months to work on it and it ended up like this...

What can we expect from the first expansion then?

A complete regression to 1.0?

[polyphonica]

What exactly stopped them from implementing this in 2.15? OK we'd still have supply issues, but at least I wouldn't be sitting here going "What the hell have you been doing these past months?".

From what they said, anyway, it's that players didn't generally have enough gil to afford it as individuals yet, and they didn't have the system capacity to handle it. They imply now that they're working on the capacity, and inflation and housing depreciation has taken care of the finance side.

I think it's possible that there was something else in the works that got scrapped for whatever reason (this sort of thing happens in development). But I suppose it's also possible that people interpreted the delay and some comments as "they're working on something big!" when that may not have ever been what they had in mind. Unless more is shared, I suppose we'll never know the full story.