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  1. #1
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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaiken View Post
    Rev Toll is definitely less people now on Sargatanas anyway. I guess people are just bored. There is not much new in 2.38. Most people got their sand already from Hunt. Ramuh, no one still bother even with i110 rings. There only Relic Weapon left, and that won't hold people for that long since the grind is so huge and boring that force you to do more old content over and over again.
    Or you don't see people idle in Revenant's Toll because we're in the DF farming Nexus?

    Or out hunting? Or at our FC/personal houses?
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    SDaemon's Avatar
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaiken View Post
    Rev Toll is definitely less people now on Sargatanas anyway. I guess people are just bored. There is not much new in 2.38. Most people got their sand already from Hunt. Ramuh, no one still bother even with i110 rings. There only Relic Weapon left, and that won't hold people for that long since the grind is so huge and boring that force you to do more old content over and over again.
    O.O I'm in Rev Toll atm and it is full of people....
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    Belcross Panda
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    Famfrit, a low population server, yesterday....had a queue line.

    I highly doubt its a queue line to quit the game....

    I think its fine if some of these people quit, it'll help ease the queue lines for people who actually enjoy the game and enjoy the features we currently have offered to us.
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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverTams View Post
    Is it just me or does it seem like the servers are emptier as updates go by? My fc hardly even logs on anymore even though they were all very active.
    It's not just you, I've noticed it too. Someone's going to argue about this, but idk how they can deny XIV has been slowly losing it's population over the last couple of months. I remember zones would be packed, even Mor Dhona would be so filled you could barely see yourself in the crowd. Now it's a ghost town, there's barely anyone even doing hunts anymore. Most of the ls I'm in used to be pretty active, now there's only ~10 people ever on in them...silent. Same goes for my FC, or most all of the FCs I've seen, even the bigger ones only sit at 5-10 people on a day now, compared to the 20+ daily that was only a short while ago.

    This is one of the first mmos I've seen (and I've played pretty much all of them lol) that's lost 75% of players from release this soon, most were gone the second 2.1 came out. Usually people from release play for far longer, unless a game is just plain bad (you know which I mean XD). Take XI for example(going to keep bringing it up and idc how many butt hurt people try to troll/argue about it), there were still people playing from NA release, 8-10 years after it came out. XIV? Nah, people dropped out within 4-5 months.

    It's just there's no real long term goals in XIV, everything is pretty much handed to you with minimal effort. Where's the fun in capping all your jobs in a month and fully gearing yourself out in the highest/second highest item lvl....within the same month or two? The story is only ok, nothing amazing, which is kind of a disappointment from SE, seeing as how great of a story they had in XI and other FF, you'd think they'd have something here. I'm sure a lot of people now just skip the cutscenes, but some of us want a good story too. It also doesn't help that pretty much every job plays almost exactly the same as another, giving no real difference between them. But apparently that'd be "stressful for new players" or some bs like that, so they've said.

    I've said it months ago and I'll continue to say it until I see otherwise. I don't see XIV lasting another year if they keep this up. Shouldn't have to give proof on that, seeing as its everywhere in mmos today. They all try copying the WoW model and end up dying off within 1-2 years, sometimes less. Remember Wildstar? What's Wildstar? Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverTams View Post
    Is this turning into a f2p game that we are paying for?
    It pretty much is lol Everything in XIV has been done, sometimes done better in f2p games. XIV: F2p quality that you pay for! Not to mention it's attracted the f2p community too.
    Tbh, even some f2p games give better quality content (and more of it!) than XIV's doing. Not to mention SE outdates stuff as quick as they make it. I can see that proving to be a problem later down the road with "limitations" and everything, because they'd have 3-4 new dungeons and 75 or more outdated, dead ones, taking up space. If you look at the amount of current content we have now, you know, the content people actually do, we don't have a year's worth, we still have the same amount as 2.0 (1 - 1 1/2 endgame dungeons, 2-3 dungeons for tomes)
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    Aemon Targaryen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    *snip*
    Jump to conclusions much? 75% of the population is gone? People not hanging out in Mor Dhona has more to do with there being nothing to do there than anything else. North Shroud is still packed on Excalibur during peak hours. So are the main cities and housing areas. People are also out hunting and nexus grinding instead of just sitting around in towns. In one of the Nexus LS's I'm in, there were 94 people online at 5pm EST today. We have a group of 8 FULL Hunting LS's, I'm in the 8th one and it has 65 online right now.

    One of the big things that's been happening are server transfers. Seeing lots of people who transferred multiple times, looking for the right fit.

    Basically, what I'm saying is, you can't judge population based on people idling in Rev or a couple of your LS's. You can't even base it on your particular server. You can guess as much as you'd like, but there really isn't any way to know for sure and if you want to believe something you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nugglets View Post
    Jump to conclusions much? 75% of the population is gone?
    Not reading much?

    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    lost 75% of players from release this soon
    I said players from release, not total population.
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  7. #7
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    Velthice's Avatar
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    Ozzie Nyandias
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    stuff
    I'd love to see the source of your not made up statistics. Also what's anecdotal evidence? Never heard of it!

    From what I've seen, which is also anecdotal evidence, excalibur is buzzing. This is the busiest I've ever seen it inbetween major content patches.

    Edit:
    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    I've said it months ago and I'll continue to say it until I see otherwise. I don't see XIV lasting another year if they keep this up. Shouldn't have to give proof on that, seeing as its everywhere in mmos today. They all try copying the WoW model and end up dying off within 1-2 years, sometimes less. Remember Wildstar? What's Wildstar? Exactly.
    Wildstar is circling the drain because it's a buggy almost unplayable mess and actively hostile towards casual players while still sucker punching the people who are dedicated enough to get past the awful attunement process to raid. Yes, Wildstar is a bad game that advertised itself as reliving the glory days of wow, but that's not why it's doing so bad. To claim otherwise is to either be incredibly ignorant or disingenuous.
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    Last edited by Velthice; 09-20-2014 at 10:45 AM.

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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Snip
    Talk about a huge amount of baseless assumptions based on nothing else than anecdotal evidences.
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    Edwin Li
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    It not really losing players but some are taking a break until 2.4 is released in October.

    Patch 2.35 and 2.38 were not major patches after all and only provided minor things.

    After all playing too much can ruin a person's experience with a game.
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    L'eudaa Nyan
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    It not really losing players but some are taking a break until 2.4 is released in October.

    Patch 2.35 and 2.38 were not major patches after all and only provided minor things.

    After all playing too much can ruin a person's experience with a game.
    If Square-Enix continues down this path with XIV I'm not coming back...... they have basically stated that the servers are running on Ferrets and can't support the player base let alone a swarm of new players for 3.0 good night, sweet prince. we will forever hold you in memory
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