Loosing players after update?

[Tiggy]

I honestly don't know how people can sit here and deny the fact, XIV is losing players and quite quickly. It's fairly obvious, just by taking a look at all the populated places that are almost ghost towns now and the lack of anything on PF / hunts, compared to a few months ago.

I don't understand how people can keep thinking "the state of my server" is equal to "the state of the whole game."

Also, you're server has only 14k less people (According to FFXIV Soul) than Balmung the server I'm on. Being a legacy server isn't a big deal anymore. It's not the bargaining chip it used to be in this kinds of discussions.

Thirdly, we are in the last month of a 3 month patch cycle. Things ALWAYS slow down in the last month only to boom like crazy when the next .1 patch comes out. This follows the same pattern we've seen three times already.

Lastly, It might help to remember that Destiny just came out, and that school started. In my own FC I can ramble off a list of people that haven't been playing much in the last two weeks for those two specific reasons, and as far as Destiny is concerned they are beginning to trickle back in. (Myself included) Just because people aren't around doesn't mean it's because the game sucks. It's not that black and white.

[Eekiki]

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On Leviathan (a non-legacy server), Revenant's Toll is still packed. Fallgourd Float is packed most of the time, too.

Not all servers are equal.

And put me in the boat with the rest of the "I'm playing Destiny right now but my sub is still active and I still log on to XIV here and there until 2.4 is released or I get tired of Destiny, whichever comes first" people.

[Alurwen]

If SE doesn't get their head outta their asses and start listening to the players regarding idiotic FATE grinds, atma drop rate and the general state of end game they're going to keep loosing subscriptions to the point that F2P will have to be an option simply for economic reasons. One end game raid (No, ST doesn't count) with progression lockout as the ONLY option is ludicrous.

I love this game and want it to thrive but I just don't get the feeling that the community is liking the general path that is developing concerning game "features". And SE's response of "oh well live with it" is very discouraging.

[Lasair_Shiorai]

I only stay subscribed until I finish with the new content that they add. If my friends are currently playing then I stay on a little longer. When I'm done with the new quests, storylines, and loot collecting then I unsubscribe until the next update.

[Anatha]

No change on Gilgamesh, it's as busy as ever, still has queues during peak.

[Roris]

So barring any major disasters, like all their servers somehow being physically destroyed, I don't see the game disappearing or going free to play. And the game would be shut down before ever going free to play.

I think that's too extreme, they already spent too much on both 1.0 and ARR to simply close shop and shut down everything, not to mention it would leave a pretty big hole in the FF series' timeline. If it ever goes F2P it'll go F2P and that'll be that. It won't be any time soon anyway, though it'd be a mild surprise if it happened before the expansion but not really, it still has some life as a P2P game.

Besides MMOs don't really die or fail when they go F2P, plenty of previously P2P games that went F2P are still going, even TOR is still kicking around. XIV was already technically buy to play at one point so it's not like it would be that different. I know there's the antecedent of XI never going F2P but that was released in a different era when MMOs didn't really have much competition and were all very different from each other and not just straight up blatant clones. Most P2P MMOs in the past 5 or so years have inevitably gone F2P, so one can never be too certain and say it'll never ever go F2P, just like one can't declare for sure it'll go F2P any day now I guess.

[Tiggy]

XIV was already technically buy to play at one point so it's not like it would be that different.

It wasn't released this way. It was made buy to play when people realized how utterly bad it was and square had to save face. It would be quite different.

However, that said Yoshi-P in at least one interview did support the idea of f2p if it came to that.

[StrejdaTom]

Hmm.. again another of these threads.. you people still enjoy making them?

I dont see drastic changes on Ragnarok since September 2013, maybe I just have bad memory. Today there were 4 people in queue, in September 2013 there were 112 aprox.

Every game loses some players as time passes but 75%? Lol. If 75% of people left, I definitely wouldnt get to low level dungeons with DPS in about 15 - 20 minutes but in 1 hour.

Too many people like to spread lies like "the game is dying" only because they dont like one patch, wow.

[scarletfoxxy]

The biggest issue is the fact there is no lasting social aspect of the game. They have made it next to pointless to join an FC and most people only join FC's for their friends they know or the raiding opportunities. They need a more lasting social aspect within the FCs that keep players engaged in more then just the content offered. A lot of people log on just to kick it with their online family and the FCs are being torn apart with these new patches. If the had FUN card games or swimming pools or items that actually allow you to interact as a group, people would have more of a reason to stick around. People are naturally social beings and having an online life to attend to could only help the situation. You'd be surprised how much fun you'd have enjoying the company of others instead of hating the company of others because of raids.

[Xystic]

Lastly, It might help to remember that Destiny just came out, and that school started. In my own FC I can ramble off a list of people that haven't been playing much in the last two weeks for those two specific reasons, and as far as Destiny is concerned they are beginning to trickle back in. (Myself included) Just because people aren't around doesn't mean it's because the game sucks. It's not that black and white.

Don't forget tiggy, it was also the D3 Hardcore Seasonal release prior to Destiny as well. My FC is the same, they have started to trickle back. Went to D3 hardcore seasonal, destiny and now we are preparing for 2.4!