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    It seems to me less flicker during night times, you only get the really bad flicker during the day especially at high noon. Depth of field doesn't seem to make a diff to me.

    Adaptive AA does get rid of the flicker especially over GDQ8 but its a resource hog and very hard to use with a single 5870 with vysnc and triple buffering on, and I refuse to play without those 2 settings as the wavery lines and tearing are too bad. The game does look awesome with Adaptive AA on, but I refuse to deal with the tearing and wavery lines to use it.

    Back with to the original point tho, I think its more the time of day and lighting direction/intensity in the game that make flickering bad at GDQ 8 rather than it being "random". And it is definetely less noticeable at GDQ 9 and 10, at least to me.
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    Last edited by Jibe; 03-11-2011 at 10:04 AM.

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    o jibe ur using ati card maybe the cause of the flicker is different for nvidia cards cuz after turning off depth of field the flicker on trees stop for me doesn't matter what lvl of general drawing. maybe nvidia card are just different.
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    Guess that could be possible yuzuha. I've never used an Nvidia card before.
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    To all the ati users: I had/have an ati 5870 with better cooling oc to 900 (so not so much).
    Ati's AA options in general use more hardware then nvidia does - they look a bit better but not compared to the fps hit.
    I was able to play the game pretty well if i didnt go over 2X AA (used adaptive for trees since they look crappy without).
    But like i said, that was with oc 5870 and another cooler (accelero extreme) without the cooling also the ati card was loud and hot. I think the 6-series does that much better but it is a tad slower atm (im not talking about 2-3 card solutions which FF doenst support anyways, at least not good).

    Benchmark programms are more or less just s slight direction but in my experience pretty useless when it comes down to actual smooth gaming since it only counts the frames all together. Doesnt say much about smoothness in gameplay.
    thats why i stopped useing sli/x-fire since only few games really have a good profile for that the rest has more problems then benefits. And heat/power consumption also doenst feel right (6 series is better there though) Sli and x-fire unless it really gets developed on more and supported more by the games, which is essential, isnt more then e-peen contest for most of the time.

    The 6870 is a good card but its slower then then 5870 and much slower then the gtx 580, so its only natural that ffxiv isnt as good on ati atm. Ati just doenst have a card comparable to the 570/580 atm and the dual gpu card is something different and shouldnt be compared imho.

    They win the prize for power and less noise though

    And the 580 still isnt optimized a lot and furmark gets my card to mx 75C ffxiv does it to 85C (all other games, crysis, AOC rift, or maxed games are at around 72C in full load with stock cooling).
    im a bit nerdy with hardware sometimes but i wouldnt recommend looking into so much new hardware if you dont have the money atm, since the biggest problem for ATI and NVIDIA is the unoptimized game engine which eats everything no matter what ... So wait for optimisations from the developer side.

    the 6(ati) series as well as the 5(nvidia) series are still babies and will get optimized. so if ff , nvidia and ati optimize on it,
    i think the higher 6 series should be fine with ff.
    Damn i always write so much... but i tweaked around the game since beta lol
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    Last edited by Anty; 03-12-2011 at 02:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anty View Post
    And the 580 still isnt optimized a lot and furmark gets my card to mx 75C ffxiv does it to 85C (all other games, crysis, AOC rift, or maxed games are at around 72C in full load with stock cooling).
    Its exactly the same for me, Crysis, Metro 2033, etc. are running about 10°C cooler than XIV.

    The Nvidia driver will prevent 100% GPU load (and will also clock down if needed) for all known stress-testing tools, e.g. Furmark, OCCT, in order to protect the card. This rule goes only for the 580 so far and has been discussed on Nvidia forums recently after people were wondering why the older 480 beats the 580 in Furmarks benchmarking tool.
    (Sorry for this being Off-Topic).

    Square Enix is in charge to optimize their engine now....hope they will do. A patch for an optional DX11 or OpenGL 4.x mode would be great but i don't see that coming for a long time.
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    Last edited by Franzisca; 03-12-2011 at 05:45 AM.

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    figured out what was making my game studder. i really thought it was lag because it only did it in town.
    then i got to thinking nobody is on my server lol. it was Multisampling: X8
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    Guess I'll join in on posting settings:
    • Mode: Windowed with Borderless Script
    • Resolution: 1600*1200
    • Multisampling: 16xQ CSAA
    • General Drawing: 8
    • Background Drawing: 5
    • Shadows: Highest
    • Ambient Occlusion: off
    • Depth of Field: off
    • Texture Quality: High
    • Texture Filtering: Highest

    I keep a solid 60FPS in any outdoor/underground zone. Unfortunately, I suffer from the weird stuttering bug within the cities too, thus my FPS drops to between 30-45 for a few min while everything initially loads, then my FPS returns to a solid 60. It still stutters on occasion, when new players/NPCs enter my view, but its not that bad...


    And here are my Custom-built PC specs:
    • Motherboard: EVGA P55 FTW 200 SLI
    • CPU: Intel Core i7-K875 Lynnfield 2.93GHz
    • GPU: EVGA GTX 580
    • Monitor: 40" Proscan HDTV
    • Case: Antec 1200
    • PSU: Antec 750w
    • RAM: 8GB A-DATA Gaming Series DDR3 1600
    • HDD: Hitachi 1TB 7200

    Lastly, a few images: {if anyone cares...lol}
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    I'm on my laptop now so I can't post screenies; at the beach and won't be on the desktop for another couple days. Just the same...

    General Draw Quality: 8
    AA: 16xQ CSAA
    Ambient Occlusion: Off
    Everything Else: On/Max
    Vertical Sync: Forced via Control Panel

    Frame Rate: 45 FPS
    In Combat (At BW): 40 FPS
    In City: 30-45 FSP

    The System:
    i5 2.8ghz
    4mb Ram
    GTX460 768mb GDDR5
    HDD: Haitachi 250GB (Don't know make/model)
    1920x1280 (windowed)

    So yeah. That's where I'm at. I can push better frame rates, but I don't see the point for various reasons, and it comes at a loss of quality. If I play full screen (which I sometimes do; I'll set hulu up on monitor #2 with a play list, and just leave it), I gain anywhere from 5-10 FPS, depending on if I leave my other monitor extended or not.

    This setup is all stock, no special cooling elements of any kind, just an acrylic case that is wide open.

    Edit:
    Also, I have very little to no stuttering in the cities due to HDD issues. If I leave the game running a long time without closing it down, or if I go a few weeks without dumping the files, it will start to stutter everywhere. I've found however that a once a week wiping of everything but the user settings prevents 90% of the stuttering I would otherwise experience. I chalk part of that up to the HDD itself. Haitachis are beats. @.@
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    Last edited by origamikitsune; 07-10-2011 at 10:09 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by origamikitsune View Post
    4mb Ram
    Woah how are you even able to boot? Just 4MB RAM?! D:
    Even my 486DX had more than that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalus View Post
    [*]Resolution: 1600*1200
    [*]Monitor: 40" Proscan HDTV
    Mistake?

    I wasn't aware 1080p TVs could run in 4:3 resolutions, let alone ones with more vertical space than they can display.
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