Nexus vs High Allagan

[Rydia13]

Worked hard? You mean you got a drop. All that's needed is to repeat the same content til you get your weapon lol same as Nexus

[Grotesque]

Both is work, both need different sort of skill.

HA = You learn a choreography, congratz you became a dancer

Nexus = You stand hours for hours on the same assemby line doing the same shit over and over, congratz you became a fabric worker

At the end of the day, both was work, both have a weapon to fight with.

[Rydia13]

Both is work, both need different sort of skill.

HA = You learn a choreography, congratz you became a dancer

Nexus = You stand hours for hours on the same assemby line doing the same shit over and over, congratz you became a fabric worker

At the end of the day, both was work, both have a weapon to fight with.

I wish HA weapons unlocked Dancer

[LunarEmerald]

Nexus is far more time consuming than clearing coil. Coil at most takes a month or two to get down then it's easy to farm each week in a few hours. Nexus is something that requires a crazy amount of grinding to get. (if you count all the stages. relic, zenith ,atma, animus, novus and nexus) If time investment equals difficulty then Nexus is a hell of a lot harder than the high allagan weapons.

This is coming from someone with a high allagan weapon.

Also, I think people overplay the difficulty of coil. Yes, it's challenging until the point that all 8 members know the fight then it becomes just as easy as anything else in the game.

[BobbinT]

Nexus is far more time consuming than clearing coil. Coil at most takes a month or two to get down then it's easy to farm each week in a few hours. Nexus is something that requires a crazy amount of grinding to get. (if you count all the stages. relic, zenith ,atma, animus, novus and nexus) If time investment equals difficulty then Nexus is a hell of a lot harder than the high allagan weapons.

This is coming from someone with a high allagan weapon.

Also, I think people overplay the difficulty of coil. Yes, it's challenging until the point that all 8 members know the fight then it becomes just as easy as anything else in the game.

Depends though. For ppl having lots of RL stuff to do like me, managing coil is just something not easy to do. This, combined with the odd hour I have for content that needs high concentration and playing in server that usually have majority players already slept past bedtime makes it even harder to try doing these. To summarize, I play at JP server but can do effectively on EU prime time. And I can't play at US/EU server because latency's really bad there. Go figure... ^^;

Nexus might feel like long chore, but it's not crazy amount of time. You wouldn't even realize it's already done.

[Hysterior]

I think High Allagan is now officially for glamour

[JohnMccain]

Well to be fair it will only be BiS for a month. That is assuming the game will stick to allagan being better than relic. It would of been cool though if the required quest for nexus was to clear t9. The casuals probably would of cried, but then again why would casuals need 115 anyways?

[ColdestHeaven]

until the point that all 8 members know the fight

The road for that might not be so short, definitely not as "easy" to travel. I agree that in terms of time and dedication (dedication is the keyword in the relic concept, I believe) the relic steps shouldn't be considered so far behind the coil. However I believe that time investment does not necessarily equal difficulty. The only real difficulty in the relic quest chain is to not give up during the unending grind - whereas "not giving up" is the last problem in T9, especially while training it. The road traveled to get there, to the point where you get your High Allagan weapon after beating the most difficult content of the game, is not the same road of those who just did lesser content.

This, instead, is coming from someone with a Nexus weapon and has been trying to train T9 for weeks to properly to reach the point you described above.

[HakuroDK]

You know, I actually like the fact that Nexus is better than High Allagan, and I'll tell you why.

High Allagan is earned by completing really hard content a small handful of times, depending on skill, group mechanics, and chance.

Relic Weapons are earned by getting a weapon, going through a painstaking process to upgrade it, going through another painstaking process to upgrade it, going through YET ANOTHER painstaking process to upgrade it, ad infinitum.

A lot more work goes into a relic weapon these days than what goes into an endgame raid weapon. Because you see, the work to get an endgame raid weapon is always constant from start to finish. The raid gets into the game, the raid gets unlocked, people raid it, people get the weapons, done. You do not need last raid's weapon to get the current raid weapon. Hell, if a player who has beaten T1-9 and hasn't gotten their weapon yet, they can technically skip over getting their Allagan weapon in First and Second coils and just get it in Third Coil. And if you want to gear off-classes, that is the easiest thing in the world to do for someone who can beat raids on a regular basis.

However, the work to get a relic weapon is always increasing from start to finish because it is a process of perpetual upgrade and no steps can be skipped. Relic ALWAYS goes into Zenith, Zenith ALWAYS goes into Atma, Atma ALWAYS goes into Animus, Animus ALWAYS goes into Novus, and Novus ALWAYS goes into Nexus. If you want a Nexus Relic, you have to work for it, and not only work for it, but you have to work for it on the Job you want the Nexus for, and work at it for days, weeks, and even months. Soon enough, it may even take an entire year's worth of work to go from Relic to the latest step in the Zodiac Weapon process.

That's why Relic Weapons are worth the investment. Not because they are currently the strongest weapons in the game, but because they will ALWAYS be the strongest weapons in the game, which is because of all the work put into them.

[TomTom1968]

I don‘t really care anymore for the Coil weapons. I got my Level 100 Relict weapon before I saw the one hand BLM weapon drop for the first time and I guess I will also have my Relict weapon at Level 115 before I see the BLM T9 weapon. Screw Coil RNG loot distribution. By the time you get what you look for, the items are already outdated unless you are really lucky. Or a tank lol. Coil seems to love Tanks.