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    Spirit bond speed

    Being new to the spirit bonding arena, is it more efficient to SB in a party or not?

    I have read conflicting reports on this.

    SB is better alone

    SB is better in party

    In one respect I could see both of these actually being right, SB for a single kill will be faster alone than group but the group will be able to kill more enemies per hour, thus, increasing the SB efficiency higher.
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    Your supposition is correct, a kill in a party (even just you and your chocobo) binds roughly 40% less per kill than killing the same target outside a party, but if you can kill twice the number of targets while in a party than you can kill by yourself in the same time period you will come out ahead.

    The data in both your links is out of date also. Patch 2.35 change how spiritbonding works. Spiritbonding works best when you kill targets with levels roughly 8 levels higher than the item's ilevel. The monsters in level 50 Dungeons have ilevels roughly equal to the level of the equipment that is gained in at dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    The data in both your links is out of date also. Patch 2.35 change how spiritbonding works.
    Google unfortunately does always put the newest data first. Or, even with the first 3 pages of results.

    Do you have any links to updated data?
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    Hi there.
    I'm necroing this thread to post an observation and a question:

    + Spirit bond stat: Does that even work at all?
    Binding ilvl 45 NQ (no materia) nets me 1% per lv 49 mobkill, no matter whether I have +5 Bond (2x Aether rings + potion) or +0.
    Binding ilvl 55 NQ (1 Materia) nets me 1% every 2 mobs, no matter whether I have +5 Bond (2x Aether rings + potion) or +0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Hi there.
    I'm necroing this thread to post an observation and a question:

    + Spirit bond stat: Does that even work at all?
    Binding ilvl 45 NQ (no materia) nets me 1% per lv 49 mobkill, no matter whether I have +5 Bond (2x Aether rings + potion) or +0.
    Binding ilvl 55 NQ (1 Materia) nets me 1% every 2 mobs, no matter whether I have +5 Bond (2x Aether rings + potion) or +0.
    Did you bond them all the way and count the total number, or just keep track for a short stretch of kills? Spiritbond +5 isn't a major boost to rate, but you will see a difference. Other things that can throw you off are choco out, being in party, someone else getting in on your kill, different levels of mobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    Did you bond them all the way and count the total number, or just keep track for a short stretch of kills? Spiritbond +5 isn't a major boost to rate, but you will see a difference. Other things that can throw you off are choco out, being in party, someone else getting in on your kill, different levels of mobs.
    I was solo and binding speed was constant over a rather large portion.
    Also, this was not the first experiment I did. 1hr per set seems to be the norm for me.

    Maybe the stat only affects binding via synthesis? (Never tested that after I saw the ridiculously slow progress on my ilvl 55 stuff and estimated the shard amount needed)
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    I did some testing a while back, it seems to vary based on the level of the mobs vs the level of the gear. My thought on how it might work:

    -it takes a certain number of spiritbond points to fully SB a piece
    -HQ gear and each piece of materia gives you a 20% boost to points
    -the spiritbond+ gives a set number of points, not a percentage increase
    -you get more points for higher level mobs vs gear level, so it's more dramatic on 55 gear than 45 gear against level 50 mobs

    This was a fairly small sample before the change to spiritbond rate, so I can't say if any of it remains accurate
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