Ramuh Rant

[melflomil]

Put some random elements in Titan ex and you have the same level of difficulty. Most people still have a hard time on the great Wall called Titan. I suggest joining or creating a Linkshell full of people has/can clear Primals

[Cherie]

The main reason people don't like it so much, is because, while it still is scripted per say, there is more randomness involved than most fights. Or maybe that is a poor way to put it... A better way might be to say there is more personal responsibility than most fights in this game.

Being responsible for yourself and playing a game with random people doesn't go over well... Say someone goofs up, they get called out, and they won't like it. Or maybe someone goofs up and it isn't clear who's fault it was, then argument ensues...

It doesn't ever even really matter who's fault something is, they just need to do their best yanno? But people don't want to be responsible, they want it to be like a single player game where no one notices...

That and Ramuh actually has quite a bit of a DPS check... And DPS meters are forbidden so, I bet people have no idea if they are dpsing correctly.

So yea, do a fight where you might get called out? Or try to get threat on a hunt mob for credit with like 150 other people... where no one can really judge you unless you pull early! :P

[Luvbunny]

The main reason people don't like it so much, is because, while it still is scripted per say, there is more randomness involved than most fights. Or maybe that is a poor way to put it... A better way might be to say there is more personal responsibility than most fights in this game.

Mhuah hah hah hah ha hah hah hah!!! Thanks for pointing this out. So many players screaming for "challenge" and "randomness" and spew their vitriol hate over "scripted" fights. And yet - when they are given "random", very few wants to touch it.

[Cherie]

Mhuah hah hah hah ha hah hah hah!!! Thanks for pointing this out. So many players screaming for "challenge" and "randomness" and spew their vitriol hate over "scripted" fights. And yet - when they are given "random", very few wants to touch it.

So true! The thing is, it's not really all that random but... yea it feels more random than all the other fights. Most things that "choose" people... At least things that are annoying choosing people if not just more things in general... I mean, Titan has those plumes but, ya you just stack and all run away, it doesn't matter who it was placed on, unlike this fight.

Personally I like Ramuh. All the other primals I can just turn my brain off and run like a scared animal from stuff. :P Ramuh I actually have to kind of think of where I'm running to, lest I kill everyone.

[reality_check]

Mhuah hah hah hah ha hah hah hah!!! Thanks for pointing this out. So many players screaming for "challenge" and "randomness" and spew their vitriol hate over "scripted" fights. And yet - when they are given "random", very few wants to touch it.

I'm not sure I understand what's random about Ramuh EX?

It's always the same sequence. And the sequence is even shorter than what most scripted fights are like.

[Cherie]

I'm not sure I understand what's random about Ramuh EX?

It's always the same sequence. And the sequence is even shorter than what most scripted fights are like.

Yea, it just feels random, because the person chosen for the mechanic actually has to make a choice... Unlike others, where they just run for their life and try to save themselves... Now that same person has to decide where to go to not kill someone... or sometimes, who they can hit with lightning and not kill.

I think that's why this fight is called random. The randomness is waaay more noticeable, but maybe it's actually in reality just the same.

[Barboron]

Mhuah hah hah hah ha hah hah hah!!! Thanks for pointing this out. So many players screaming for "challenge" and "randomness" and spew their vitriol hate over "scripted" fights. And yet - when they are given "random", very few wants to touch it.

It's not random at all though, it's scripted. The only actual random thing about it is where the orbs drop, that's it really. But T7 has renauds sawn in random places, T6 has bulbs in random places, T9 has dragons in random places. But that's not enough to call a fight random.

The reason people can't do this is because it requires quick, clear, and concise communication. Something that people can have difficulty doing especially without the aid of a voice communication system/server like TS, mumble, vent etc.

[Colt47]

I've tried doing random PF groups for Ramuh and unless they use voice chat it becomes futile quite quickly to get anything done. People don't understand how much coordination T6-T9 and ramuh extreme are designed for. The original turns were no where near this level with the exception of Coil Turn 5.

[Xellos2099]

I've tried doing random PF groups for Ramuh and unless they use voice chat it becomes futile quite quickly to get anything done. People don't understand how much coordination T6-T9 and ramuh extreme are designed for. The original turns were no where near this level with the exception of Coil Turn 5.

Well, I think it is more of a trust issue for Ramuh EX. As long as order has been lay out it is not bad as long as everyone follow the direction on who break chao, tether and bait. Even then sometime accident happen and having healer lb 3 can be a godsend.

[zar]

Gated behind Levi and Moogle Ex would be my guess.