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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    For thsoe who speak a bit better japanese than me....


    The latter part is only in the 8th derevation used for dreaming, otherwise used for illusion and the first kanji is a lyrical writing of something freezes .. Wouldnt it be more saying That Illusion of Freezing?

    Just curious because some Japanese original titles mean quite something else than the english translation
    It actually says something along the lines of "Freezing Illusions" since the first half ("freezing" + particle) is just to describe what the Illusions part is all about.

    IMO "Dreams of Ice" give off the same feeling. Dreams can be so good that you never want to wake up from them, so you've fallen into an illusion created by your mind that you're ultimately charmed by. If they froze over somehow, you can definitely never wake up again. Not that you'd want to wake up from such a wonderful dream.
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    Yeah of course it is more catchy

    but I wonder more if there is some other meaning behind it. the FFXI expannsion, when translating the Japanese names literally made a lot of more sense Wings of the goddes actully was something like The warriors legends if I remember right.
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    Ahh I see - Well, tomorrow is the live letter! im sure itll get clarified then
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    SHiva better sounds sexy. I say Shiva should have a slight Hindu accent, nothing hardcore that we will have to replay the cut scenes to understand what she is saying. Ramuh sounded the way i expected because of that glorious beard and on top of that he pronounced the other primals name correctly.

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    The fact that Lady Iceheart is on the front of the art for patch 2.4 is a giveaway that shes Shiva (refers to own signature)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMunimai View Post
    The fact that Lady Iceheart is on the front of the art for patch 2.4 is a giveaway that shes Shiva (refers to own signature)
    I see Shivas boobs behind Iceheart. Looks like Shiva is half encased in ice or a crystal, in fact... Perhaps that's why she's been dormant, also adds meaning to "Dreams of Ice", since it would mean Shiva is "asleep", and Iceheart is attempting to wake her; she looks like she's calling/praying to Shiva in that artwork at least.

    EDIT: Threw this together to point out the boobs;
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    Last edited by Nalien; 09-19-2014 at 10:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMunimai View Post
    The fact that Lady Iceheart is on the front of the art for patch 2.4 is a giveaway that shes Shiva (refers to own signature)
    Yet Yoshi-P said a few months(?) ago that all our guesses (and at the time nearly everyone has thought of Iceheart being Shiva in human form) about Lady Iceheart were wrong. So unless they decided to change that, she's most certainly not Shiva herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzetta View Post
    Yet Yoshi-P said a few months(?) ago that all our guesses (and at the time nearly everyone has thought of Iceheart being Shiva in human form) about Lady Iceheart were wrong. So unless they decided to change that, she's most certainly not Shiva herself.
    Yeah...Yoshi says a lot of things tho, I wouldn't take anything he says or said at face value right now.... ^^
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    I see both of your points...

    Ah well - it was a silly guess of mine that's all - guess we'll find out in a month or so...

    I still think she somehow imbues herself with the power of a primal therefore becoming Shiva (which is unprecedented)
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    Theory; The people of Falcon's Nest summoned Shiva by mistake during the Calamity, and she's a "new" Primal in a similar way to Good King Moggle Mog. The Mogs had their legend of the Good King, and that was enough for them to summon him, perhaps the people of Falcon's Nest had a similar legend, which they turned to praying to in desperation during the Calamity. Since they didn't really know what they were doing, something went wrong and the whole area got Diamond Dusted and Shiva went to "sleep". Iceheart survived, thinking she was saved by Shiva, the Ascians then tell her how to properly summon her "God" and she's now going about trying to awaken Shiva.

    Shiva could even be Halone, although I've never liked that idea. Same gender. Same element. Halone even shared some basis in Hindu mythology with Shiva iirc. Ishgards do worship Halone as well, after all.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 09-19-2014 at 10:35 PM.

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