2.4 - Dreams of Ice

**Nalien** · 09-19-2014 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Gilraen

Calling it now, Iceheart is Shiva.

I find it more likely that Iceheart will be a relative of someone, and that she survived whatever happened to Falcon's Nest/Coerthas Western Highlands, only to become a slave to Shiva.

Iceheart literally being Shiva is just far too obvious, and has no real impact as a result... Then again, these are the same people who gave us Neros cunning disguise and reveal in the Crystal Tower cutscenes...

Thinking about it... Why does Shiva even need to be summoned? Western Highlands got completely Diamond Dust'd by her after all... Who exactly put her down after she did that? Who even summoned her to do that to Coerthas in the first place?

**Darki** · 09-20-2014 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by Gilraen

Calling it now, Iceheart is Shiva.

I'm more inclined to believe that Iceheart is a "Frozen" (I swear I don't mean to talk about the movie) follower to Shiva sort of like a follower of Ifrit is a "Tempered." I base this on the fact that I have yet to see a primal that can assume a form of that of one of the 5 races.

**Alukah** · 09-19-2014 02:05 AM

http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/1...s-and-more.htm

That's the emptiest article I have ever read, the title suggest it's about 2.4 but only the first paragraph talks about 2.4.

**Gilraen** · 09-19-2014 02:35 AM

This is how the sahuagin priest proves (to me at least) that Iceheart is Shiva. The Ascians granted the priest the power of the Echo, granting him immortality (for however long that lasted). Players are also granted the Echo and when we die we can just revive at an aetheryte like nothing happened. Remind you of anything? (/cues Jeopardy theme) That's right, like a primal. Primals don't die, they just go to the aether and have a nap. Imagine if Echo bearers had the same strength of spirit. Seems to achieve this you just need alot of aetheric energy. Iceheart is either naturally gifted with the Echo or has been/will be awakened by the Ascians, then she'll go and power up on crystals cause why not and in the process become Shiva. That's my theory, at least.

**Sholah** · 09-19-2014 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by Gilraen

This is how the sahuagin priest proves (to me at least) that Iceheart is Shiva. The Ascians granted the priest the power of the Echo, granting him immortality (for however long that lasted). Players are also granted the Echo and when we die we can just revive at an aetheryte like nothing happened.

Actually, word of god says that players don't literally die when you die. You're knocked unconscious, and your character's natural instinct activates their anima which sends them to a safe point via the lifestream. The Echo grants immortality by allowing your soul to exist outside of your body in an aetherial form, like the Ascians. Whereas Primals don't really have a soul, they're just walking, talking masses of crystal given identity through the beliefs of their followers.

**Brine_Gildchaff** · 09-19-2014 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by Sholah

Actually, word of god says that players don't literally die when you die.

Shiro lied to us?!?

**Yamimarik** · 09-19-2014 03:03 AM

This is just my personal opinion/theory.

I believe if Iceheart is Shiva, that somehow she is transformed into a Primal, that we'll finally see the process of how a Primal is made, which could open up the doors to new possibilities for us in the future for many different things. I think the heretics aren't all what they seem, Iceheart might actually have some kind of intel that Ishgard is corrupted by some unknown force (or she knows it's by the paragons) and is trying to start her own rebellion through these "heretics". Her followers get so devout over her, and the process of how to create a primal is imbued upon her, that she becomes Shiva, in hopes to thwart what ever plans Ishgard might have against the rest of the world. I'm not entirely convinced she is the same as Ifrit, Garuda, and Titan, but more like Ramuh and her fight will be something different that just "stopping the raging Primal from sucking up Aether." Again... just a thought.

**Exodus-E** · 09-19-2014 03:07 AM

The trailer can't come fast enough!

**Grey_Cain** · 09-19-2014 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by Ashgarth

Hopefully we will have some more info soon.

Information coming this Saturday:

Saturday, September 20, 10:15 p.m. (PDT)
Latest News: Yoshi-P will be revealing the latest details from the upcoming 2.4 patch, including the new class and job, the new primal, new dungeons, and much, much more!

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