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  1. #11
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    Riepah Redeemer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiant View Post
    It's a ranged attack and imo if you are in melee then it is not ranged. It's more of discrepancy issue then anything.
    Then any attack of Archer or Bard would need a minimum range by that logic. And, honestly, don't you find it much weirder that we can throw our shield/axe and... well, hold it in hand again 1 second later? We can throw our shield/axe ten times in a row, but it only bothers you that we can do it in melee range, not that we seem to have limitless amounts of shields/axes to throw?
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    Symbiant Disciple
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
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    I am pretty sure the description says ranged attack. As far as casters & bards go, none of those have the "ranged attack" in the description. So it would not apply to them. As far as immersion... what about the monk that can't tackle that is right in front of them when a tackle is typically an in your face type of fighting tactic.

    As I said before it's a discrepancy issue. They can just remove the "ranged attack" and put something like delivers a blow of 130 or some bs like that or they can just make it what it states it is and keep you from using it in melee range.

    I am sure you would not like to purchase a blue laptop online and when you it arrives it's brown would you? It's basically the same thing. Nit picky? Yes but, it should be something that should be fixed imo.
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    Nope these arguments dont justify a change.
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    Don't feed the troll, end thread.
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    Ignis Inferne
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    Provoke + lob just after something moves and is just out of melee range. Means I don\\'t need to move so I don\\'t mess with any melee dps or have to move into aoes etc etc. ps4 tab targeting in large groups is a nightmare and sometimes things get yanked off me because I\\'m still tabbing to the monster.

    Don\\'t like it don\\'t use it.
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    Iam Groot
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    By ranged attack it just means it can be used outside melee range. Obviously you don't need that title on Bard and Caster spells, because duh they are ranged.

    It is simply a way for melee to know it can be used outside of melee range. Which is just a simple description of what the skill does.

    It says nothing about not being able to use it within melee range, which is exactly what shoulder tackle states. And shoulder tackle is not a ranged attack.

    So it is very clear and working as intended. We will stop feeding you now.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignnis View Post
    Provoke + lob just after something moves and is just out of melee range. Means I don\\'t need to move so I don\\'t mess with any melee dps or have to move into aoes etc etc. ps4 tab targeting in large groups is a nightmare and sometimes things get yanked off me because I\\'m still tabbing to the monster.

    Don\\'t like it don\\'t use it.
    Exactly! It's just out of melee range just as I have requested.

    No one said to tab target mobs. If you are doing a group right you will not have to target but one mob.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
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    Yes ranged does mean you can use it outside of melee. I don't disagree with that but, the other attack from ranged do not say ranged attack. As far as shoulder tackle goes. You brought in immersion so I brought up shoulder tackle because no one would try to tackle someone from 10'. Nothing immersive about having to run out 10' to tackle someone when you can tackle them at point blank range.
    I would think that the word "Lob" would indicate range no? "Range attack" Is not needed on the description.

    You can take repelling shot as another mislabel attack. Nothing in that description states you need to be up the mobs butt before you can use it. It just simply states "10-yalm backstep". It never told me that I could not use it in any location. I am ranged so I would assume I can use it in my average range no?
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    I screenshotted this thread. hilarious.

    /endthread.
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    I use shield lob to drain my TP, so I can be cool and use my "BRD TP SONG NOW" Macro.
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