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    KingOfAbyss's Avatar
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    Most of the people I group with (not everyone of course) only use it for pulls or if one runs off but typically that one is provoked / lobbed
    Heya ^^

    It's not because the way you are playing or most of the people you are playing with play this way, that it's the only way to go.

    It can happen that you shield lob by mistake, mashing buttons, but it's working as intented. SE won't play in our stead; we are in control of the buttons we press.

    Rbstr and Bixby just gave enough arguments to close this thread.
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    Iam Groot
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    I also don't like the idea that I wouldn't be able to throw something at something, just because its close to me.

    I can still throw a baseball at your face if you are close enough for me to hit you with a sword or an axe, which have a pretty lengthy reach on them.

    It would just be weird to say you can't throw things at things that are too close.
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    Symbiant Disciple
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    I also don't like the idea that I wouldn't be able to throw something at something, just because its close to me.

    I can still throw a baseball at your face if you are close enough for me to hit you with a sword or an axe, which have a pretty lengthy reach on them.

    It would just be weird to say you can't throw things at things that are too close.
    You can't shoulder tackle unless you are @ a certain range. I can shoulder tackle someone within punching range in real life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbiant View Post
    You can't shoulder tackle unless you are @ a certain range. I can shoulder tackle someone within punching range in real life.
    This is just as stupid as saying bards shouldnt be able to fire arrows at melee range.
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    You can't do it at full speed though. And thats what a shoulder tackle is.

    And are you arguing for it to be added to melee range? Im not saying the game should emulate real life in every aspect, but when it does don't argue against it.

    Adding meaningless limitations seems less real, and takes away from my immersion.



    I think taking away melee range would also interrupt the cast, and make the game play weird, especially if a mob is moving.


    Also its not a ranged attack, its a mid ranged attack. It's distance is far shorter than a ranged attack.
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    Last edited by MythToken; 09-19-2014 at 12:57 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
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    I am pretty sure the description says ranged attack. As far as casters & bards go, none of those have the "ranged attack" in the description. So it would not apply to them. As far as immersion... what about the monk that can't tackle that is right in front of them when a tackle is typically an in your face type of fighting tactic.

    As I said before it's a discrepancy issue. They can just remove the "ranged attack" and put something like delivers a blow of 130 or some bs like that or they can just make it what it states it is and keep you from using it in melee range.

    I am sure you would not like to purchase a blue laptop online and when you it arrives it's brown would you? It's basically the same thing. Nit picky? Yes but, it should be something that should be fixed imo.
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    Nope these arguments dont justify a change.
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    Don't feed the troll, end thread.
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    Provoke + lob just after something moves and is just out of melee range. Means I don\\'t need to move so I don\\'t mess with any melee dps or have to move into aoes etc etc. ps4 tab targeting in large groups is a nightmare and sometimes things get yanked off me because I\\'m still tabbing to the monster.

    Don\\'t like it don\\'t use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignnis View Post
    Provoke + lob just after something moves and is just out of melee range. Means I don\\'t need to move so I don\\'t mess with any melee dps or have to move into aoes etc etc. ps4 tab targeting in large groups is a nightmare and sometimes things get yanked off me because I\\'m still tabbing to the monster.

    Don\\'t like it don\\'t use it.
    Exactly! It's just out of melee range just as I have requested.

    No one said to tab target mobs. If you are doing a group right you will not have to target but one mob.
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