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    Parz3val's Avatar
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    King Adunis
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    When Determining Housing Prices...

    SE, you need to reevaluate your means of averaging (haha get it) player Gil.

    Your result needs to account for outliers & be weighted differently, for one.

    The rich are just buying up multiple houses on multiple servers in multiple wards using alts & RMT.
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    Last edited by Parz3val; 09-18-2014 at 12:30 PM.

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    Aminnia Bonneroo
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    SE needs to learn the difference between what mean and median are. They need to be using the median gil per player, not the mean.
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    Ellatrix Reatori
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    If you don't have 5mil+ and have been playing for over 4 months, you have not tried, at all, to make gil or prepare for personal housing. Gil is so easy to make in this game, at least in the small quantities required to get everything outside of a med/large house yourself.

    Have you ever considered the people with <500k are the outliers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellatrix View Post
    If you don't have 5mil+ and have been playing for over 4 months, you have not tried, at all, to make gil or prepare for personal housing. Gil is so easy to make in this game, at least in the small quantities required to get everything outside of a med/large house yourself.

    Have you ever considered the people with <500k are the outliers?
    Judging by the outcry on these forums and on the JP forums, I'd say no, they are not the outliers. Also, wait, what's up with the 500k amount? I haven't seen anybody float a number that low around until you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenian View Post
    Judging by the outcry on these forums and on the JP forums, I'd say no, they are not the outliers. Also, wait, what's up with the 500k amount? I haven't seen anybody float a number that low around until you.
    I work full time and have 360k gil currently. I used to do duty roulettes actively (purposely waiting for the healer bonus) and had over 1 mil at one point (also due to selling Weaver crafting log items). I farmed my own materia for my mining set mostly and recently focused on leveling 4 crafts to 50. All of that meant doing roulette a lot less. I also used to do 2nd Coil every week and primal farms which didn't produce much gil at all (I'm not into selling carries). I also try to complete as much of the Challenge Log as I can each week.
    I think once a person has all crafts to 50 then they have more time on their hands to purely do activities that make gil (such as standing in front of the Market Board for hours undercutting people or selling expensive items from **/*** crafting). I also gather Treasure Maps daily which have never dropped a rare item worth selling.
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    There was another thread where a guy only had 300k. I expect most players to have somewhere around 2-6mil - and if you were really hyped about personal housing, you should have worked to get more. Furniture costs for the fancy stuff will end up being more than the plot of a small house anyway.
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    Louis Wind
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    Exactly the issue here. They are expecting to spent 300k to buy a house (not a room). When they saw the reality, they cry.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Funny thing is even if players median was 4-5mil it wouldnt matter because only 960 of you could have a house anyways :P. Most exciting about median and mean is that both are including RMT accounts, so SE is deciding on how to charge you based on people who's living is to generate gil in the economy lol, it begs to use their money to buy a house.

    We should be careful to say how they exactly laid out their formulas on pricing though, since they haven't said exact formulas. I would hope median over average and I would hope they dont just use median as that number alone as it is still dangerous but better imo. Hopefully what they did (which would surprise me if they did since the numbers.. lol) is they look at medians, player activity, popular player generators, and then decide the work they want particular groups* of players to perform (and then ensure that their work and demands are met - none of this limited stuff). All of this is why instanced housing while losing a bit of that neighbor feeling, is still superior.

    * (plays a lot, plays a little, plays economy a lot, just does dungeon stuff)
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    Last edited by Shougun; 09-18-2014 at 04:34 AM.

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    Loony Bob
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    One person cried about 300k, and you're assuming everyone is. Wow.

    Reality: Everyone is upset that it is 4m. That is too high. 1-2m? Not too high, I'd say. But 4m? Too high considering this is content. It should not be easier to get the best furniture in the game than it is to get a house to put them into.
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    Jesse Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loony_BoB View Post
    One person cried about 300k, and you're assuming everyone is. Wow.

    Reality: Everyone is upset that it is 4m. That is too high. 1-2m? Not too high, I'd say. But 4m? Too high considering this is content. It should not be easier to get the best furniture in the game than it is to get a house to put them into.

    I bought my house for 1.5M. There are STILL houses for sale on adamantoise for 1.5M. And we're in the middle server category price wise.
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