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  1. #11
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    Jican's Avatar
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    Jican Marquees
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    Ultros
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Thank you Alurwen, someone else had it, so I searched for it myself to put it in there. I have been ostensibly working at my job and on the forums spreading the signature around so that people can see the obvious deceit.

    And I agree. A man is only as good as his word, and once the trust is lost, it has to be built back up. I for one won't trust anything he says again.
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  2. #12
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    Themis's Avatar
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jican View Post
    Thank you Alurwen, someone else had it, so I searched for it myself to put it in there. I have been ostensibly working at my job and on the forums spreading the signature around so that people can see the obvious deceit.

    And I agree. A man is only as good as his word, and once the trust is lost, it has to be built back up. I for one won't trust anything he says again.
    The problem with that, though, is that you are actually wrong in your interpretation (which isn't that elusive or difficult to understand unless you purposely ignore facts that stare at you).

    That quote was written in December when 2.1 was written. Now, unless you want to suggest that Yoshida also has a crystal ball and wrote that post knowing what the game situation would be like come October Patch 2.38, it's pretty obvious that he meant house prices for personal housing would be cheaper in 2.38 than it was in 2.1 (which he also recently confirmed).

    And that's is actually true. Read the patch notes for 2.1. You'll find that (for my server, Excalibur) the smallest, crappiest house was 20 million gil. In 2.38, that same house is 4 million. That's a 1/5th of the price. I call this "far more affordable".

    The price of the highest tier of houses was 312,500,000 gil. In 2.38, this same house is 87,500,000 gil, or less than 1/3 of the price. This I also call "far more affordable".
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  3. #13
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    Eamil's Avatar
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    Alex Barlow
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Since we're parsing, how about the fact that the phrasing pretty strongly suggests this interpretation:

    "prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable [than free company housing]."

    He definitely didn't say "more affordable than these current 2.1 prices of free company housing," and in the full context of his post he had already addressed that the price of FC housing would be adjusted as time goes on so it doesn't even make sense for him to be referring to that. He was pretty clearly trying to assure people that player housing would be cheaper than FC housing, not "the same price as FC housing, but that price will be cheaper than it is now."
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  4. #14
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    RiverTams's Avatar
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    Kiki Altmara
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    Hyperion
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    Weaver Lv 51
    Imagine if nobody had complained when 1.0 came out.

    there probably wouldnt be a FFXIV now.
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  5. #15
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    Yukon Jack
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    @Snugglebutt

    I have made a few comments on existing threads, (not many, more like 3 that you could even construe as complaining) that is true. Again though, i dont threaten to cancel my sub and or make a brand new thread over a topic that is already being discussed and/ or in process. Do I care about this as much as you do? Perhaps not, but it doesnt mean it doesnt matter to me.
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  6. #16
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    OdinEon's Avatar
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    Char Landale
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 81
    Yah, bye.
    I soloed an fc to rank 6 and bought my fc house last week, by myself.
    Work harder and good things will come to you. Whine and quit yah, that'll get you what you want.
    Go ask your momma for her credit fard so you can buy gill if your too lazy to sell materia on the mb
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  7. #17
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    Reyne Starbreeze
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    As the housing was the only reason I reactivated my sub again I'm sorry to say I will be cancelling it once more.
    Already all the plots that are less than 32mill are taken in the area I dreamed of having a house. It's quite obvious as a casual player I wont be able to participate in having a house to call my own and enjoy.
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  8. #18
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Entheogen View Post
    I originally canceled over the RNG of the atma grind (which is still not fixed.).... I came back did everything with the exception of T7-9...even coil no longer feels rewarding... I stuck around hoping Housing would be different another failed promise on the part of Square Enix, and another subscription lost to this patch.
    K, make sure you kiss that 10 million gil worth of mounts and minions goodbye and tell them you are suffering from buyers remorse.
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  9. #19
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eamil View Post
    Since we're parsing, how about the fact that the phrasing pretty strongly suggests this interpretation:

    "prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable [than free company housing]."

    He definitely didn't say "more affordable than these current 2.1 prices of free company housing,"...
    Not only that, but FC prices didn't go up. If the values of homes are being "adjusted for inflation from 2.1" why aren't the FC prices doubling? It doesn't make sense in ANY thoughtful interpretation.
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  10. #20
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    Caleb Agron
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Canceled my subscription as well, I'd like a 37mil medium plot, I have 3.5 mil on me. Sooo in about a year i might be able to purchase that house granted the plot is available and that they add a SHIT TON more then "double" the current available wards. And no "any plot" will not do, I have a certain plot that I want, and only that plot will do. I haven't maxed out crafting, and I've never been good at screwing..i mean working the auction houses.

    PS OP: there are always going to be mindless fan boi's who will defend a game for no reason other then. "I love this game they can do no wrong" (subscription now cost 100 a month) "I love this game they can do no wrong." Some of us require higher standards from the games we play. As someone pointed out earlier, 1.0 would have never been rebooted had people not bitched. Change is NEVER made by mindless fan boi's
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