No FC room, no personal house... big deal??

[Mugiawara]

Houses should be FC only, and should never be meant for solo indivduals. House should not be "selfish activity." Personal houses for individuals will be like minions. They will be decorated and forgotten. Given the amount of work and resources SE put in, it absolutely does NOT make sense that houses end up like mausoleums, and after while lost to sands like the pyramids of the pharoahs.

The same can be said for a FC house...What's the point in it really? It's just fun for meet ups
and people to garden and just be silly. It's not a MUST-HAVE but it's just something neat...
How come people don't understand this is suppose to be fluff content?
Fluff content is when it's something that's no raiding or dungeons are grinding...basically a mini-game to give you more options in your game and down-time.
Lot's of games do it, even non-mmo's. [Not housing per say, but like mini-games.]
The more content the better! Granted said any content isn't horribly implemented such at this joke.
If houses were to be for only FC's then that is an absolute HORRIBLE idea. It was already a bad idea to make FC housing before Personal.
They claim it to test the stress on servers or some crap I can't remember...9 months post FC housing we're still reading the same sob story.


Housing is not meant to be a friggin' grind or for only a % amount of people to own it.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Houses should be FC only, and should never be meant for solo indivduals. House should not be "selfish activity." Personal houses for individuals will be like minions. They will be decorated and forgotten. Given the amount of work and resources SE put in, it absolutely does NOT make sense that houses end up like mausoleums, and after while lost to sands like the pyramids of the pharoahs.

I could easily say that our neighbors (a 4man FC with a small house, who have not logged on in weeks) are selfish for taking up a plot that, say, a 100man FC could have gotten and loved using.

Saying that housing isn't selfish content is foolhardy. It entirely is. And that is the point.

Who are you to say that people buying their own houses are selfish? It's a discount teleport among many other small QoL services. Over the course of the hundreds of times you are gonna use it, that's gil saved until eventually you "made up" the cost of the house.

[NyarukoW]

I could easily say that our neighbors (a 4man FC with a small house, who have not logged on in weeks) are selfish for taking up a plot that, say, a 100man FC could have gotten and loved using...

That is selfish. And if they don't use that house for 35 days, they will lose it so someone else can get it. SE already has things in place to counter some this selfishness. FC should not be individual FCs. And that is why there is a barrier to getting to rank 6 to get a house and a real FC gets to it much faster.

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... It's just fun for meet ups
and people to garden and just be silly. It's not a MUST-HAVE but it's just something neat...

It is not a must have. However a FC house lets a group of people share in working together and coordinate and have group objectives. That is hardly the definition of selfish.

[Squa11_Leonhart]

That is selfish. And if they don't use that house for 35 days, they will lose it so someone else can get it

lol

not even implemented.

[Kusari-chan]

Rather than personal housing, I'd have preferred if they'd implemented variety in the personal rooms:
The personal rooms cost 300k for a regular room with 50 item allowances, and that's it... very basic. Then there is the tier 2 option, pricing could be exponential like they did with the FC housing, but this room is bigger and allows you to have 75 item allowances and a small window garden for personal gardening, having 3 plots for planting so you could potentially get crossbreeds if you so wanted. Then they could do a third tier, same style of pricing, so we're talking in the range of 5mil more than likely for a tier 3 room, but it could have had a second floor, 100 allowances, and maybe a balcony area that would allow you to have a full size garden. Since you can only own one FC room per person, it would solve the problem of people buying out all the plots, and if you didn't have the gil to get a big room at first, you could buy a small and upgrade to a mid/large size room in time.

[Kusari-chan]

Rather than personal housing, I'd have preferred if they'd implemented variety in the personal rooms [...]

Continuation of the above:
As there really is no reason for one person to have a personal chocobo stable, but being able to plant your own garden when, even with a large fc house, gardening space is limited and usually only officers in an FC would be given the authority to use them, means that more people get the opportunity to experience that aspect of the game and also reap the rewards.

I was very interested in personal housing, when I believed it was going to be a separate instance. I'm not anymore, maybe I'll wait and see how they implement marriage into it and see if they work out the kinks, but as it is. . . it's just awful.

[Wyrmnus]

I just want a room I can share with someone

[TouchandFeel]

I support the idea that has been proposed here and in other threads for having instanced "apartments" as the main form of player personal housing.

The only caveat I have is that it be completely detached from FC's so that anyone can get one. I am in a large FC that has a mansion and I have a fully decked out room there but I would like something separate from all that.

As has been suggested, I feel they should be available through GC's where once you hit a certain rank you unlock a short quest to apply for a permit that unlocks being able to purchase an apartment in the city of that GC.

Having these as instances would ease up on the technical/hardware limitations and would make it so that there are not a set number of apartments available which could make it possible to potentially have an apartment in each city as long as you meet the requirements and do the quest for the GC's.

[EdwinLi]

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That something I did suggest earlier being Personal Apartments. Not as grand as Personal Housing but doesn't require a lot like Personal Housing.

It starts out as a Inn Room size with a small Balcony for outdoor housing content that support a small Pot Garden (Pot Gardens can only hold 2 seeds).

Then there is the expansion upgrades for the Personal Apartment being that there is a expansion for Room expansion with 1st expansion being a larger room, 2nd expansion adding a small 2nd room, and Final expansion increasing the size of the 2nd room.

The Balcony expansion starts out as 1st expansion increase the Balcony size to support Chocobo Stable and adds more room for more Outdoor Housing stuff, 2nd Expansion increase balcony size again, 3rd expansion increase balcony size to small house yard size.

Of course expansions will cost gil since you're asking for upgrading a Apartment room inside a building owned by the Adventure Guild. Apartment Rooms should be obtained by buying one at one of the City States and depending on where you have your Apartment determine the texture and balcony view of the Apartment.

[Amenian]

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And what of those people who choose not to be in an FC? After four train wrecks I chose to remain FC-less and do multiplayer stuff with linkshells. This means I don't get to take part in this fluff content, and gardening, and chocobo raising? If so, this would be the first modern mmo to require you to be in a guild to enjoy everything.