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    NOT ANOTHER HOUSING POST! Oh No!

    So.. after reading everything about how angry people are at personal housing... I wanted to throw an idea out there that maybe SE could look at!

    People like the idea of residencies yes? People like to have neighbors, and we want our own section not combined with FC housing, right? Something affordable?

    Why couldnt they do something like the picture below? (Warning, this was done in paint, when I'm super tired and don't really feel like making it super pretty..)



    They could easily fit over 30 houses with a simple design like this, going all the way around. The LAND size can be all the same with option to upgrade houses like in Animal Crossing (but without the huge loans) or just leave it as smalls, whatever! The land size wouldnt increase, you could have up to 3 gardens like you can with FC houses depending on your house size... I think it would really work out better. Even if you dont have an option to upgrade houses..
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    - Continued
    You could keep having neighbors, fit more than 30 houses in a ward, have all the basics of FC housing communities, without letting ONE individual buy an FC house... I mean, I have a friend with enough money to buy a large, I have enough money to buy a small, but it takes away from FCs actually owning houses... These could be more affordable, and not take up FC housing space.... Just throwing it out there..

    I have never played XI, so I don't know how they did it there, but I really really do think they could have done this better..
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    In about 30 seconds, you did a better job of personal housing design than the entire dev team did in the last 9 months.
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    --Ghalleon Helseth of Arrzaneth
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    To be honest, I think this is what they wanted to do. It's certainly what I'd envision as an ideal personal housing setup.

    The problem is that, as they've found out through the difficulty of adding additional wards to keep up with player demand... the amount of server load and database that the 'ward' structure is taking up is apparently extremely inefficient. Doing this on a scale like that would require several times as many wards, which is likely just not technologically sustainable at current - at least not with the current coding/engineering/etc.
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    Last edited by Garlyle; 09-16-2014 at 05:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlyle View Post
    To be honest, I think this is what they wanted to do.

    The problem is that, as they've found out through the difficulty of adding additional wards to keep up with player demand... the amount of server load and database it's taking up is apparently extremely inefficient. Doing this on a scale that would require several times as many wards, which is likely just not technologically sustainable at current - at least not with the current structure.

    But think about how many more wards they're going to have to add doing it the way they're currently doing it.. They have over 2 million players (while surely not all 2million are active..) To match up most players with personal housing, and most fcs with fc housing.. it's going to be a lot more stressful to do it the way they're doing it.. I dunno, I could be wrong, I'm not all tech savvy, but they could at least fill more players per ward this way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysti View Post
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    They'd be adding a tonne of wards either way, and the more players can reach it, the worse the load - it's not the number of wards but the number of places having to be tracked - 5 communities of 50 houses or 10 communities of 25 doesn't matter much. Having housing as a 'persistent zone' instead of an individual instance (personal rooms) is the issue, regardless of whether it's the wards we know or shrunken down mini-communities like you propse. Ideally at some point they'll have the code/engineering/etc efficient enough to do this though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlyle View Post
    They'd be adding a tonne of wards either way,----
    Yeah, very true. I just wish they would have put personal housing on hold if they were going to do it this way.. Though I suppose that sounds rather selfish of me.. Eh?
    I mean my FC has a Mansion that was mostly supported by 4 people, I can easily buy a small when the game goes live, but.. I don't know. It feels wrong.
    I'm gonna personally hold out and see if 2.4 seems better.. (also, coerthas housing pls.)

    But in all seriousness, we already had personal rooms, I think a lot of us would have been more satisfied if they pushed off personal housing and did it a different way, than giving us FC houses to buy as individuals, you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysti View Post
    Yeah, very true. I just wish they would have put personal housing on hold if they were going to do it this way.. Though I suppose that sounds rather selfish of me.. Eh?
    No, it's fair. I think they still want to do it this way - but the technical difficulties have made them delay personal housing for so long that this is their temporary answer, because they've been promising to do something since day one and housing in general is like eight months old already. That's what I'd like to hope, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysti View Post
    But think about how many more wards they're going to have to add doing it the way they're currently doing it.. They have over 2 million players (while surely not all 2million are active..) To match up most players with personal housing, and most fcs with fc housing.. it's going to be a lot more stressful to do it the way they're doing it.. I dunno, I could be wrong, I'm not all tech savvy, but they could at least fill more players per ward this way
    Number of Houses per Ward isn't the problem its the amount of data per House that needs to be tracked.
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    Got to keep FAITH and HOUSING post alive.. lol
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