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  1. #221
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    faris's Avatar
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    Est Mist
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Let's be real though Yoshida, a lot of people are under the impression that average gil held on each world and legacy servers holding more gil isn't a matter of richer players on that server. It's actually a matter of most legacy servers being full, having more people than the newer servers, and therefore having a higher gil count simply because there's more people actively playing.

    With that considered, a lot of people are speculating that you've made Legacy servers 2x as expensive as others because you want people to transfer to the less populated servers. This gets SE some more money with transfer costs, and it's generally better for the game to have people spread out, rather than the majority being on 5 or so servers.

    Stop apologizing. And please stop treating us as idiots.
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    Last edited by faris; 09-17-2014 at 09:02 PM.

  2. #222
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    I'd actually transfer in a heart beat if they didn't mess with my Gil.

    This is not Gil I earned in 1.0, I didn't play 1.0 enough to abuse Levequests. This is Gil I earned in ARR, the vast majority coming from the game, rather than coming from other players (Duty Roulette/Challenge Log/etc. rewards). There is no reason that Gil should be removed; it is Gil anyone, on any server, could have accumulated over the past year.

    Honestly, if you're on Excalibur and you're reading this, start selling Clear Demimateria, because I probably will buy it in order to transfer with my Gil in tact - assuming SE doesn't ban people who appear on a new server and sell tens of millions worth of Gil in Demimateria and Allagan pieces to NPCs.

    If there plan here is to get people to move to less populated servers, punishing me for having Gil when I want to move server solely to enjoy a system which requires a lot of Gil... Yeah... Wish I could come up with such sensible plans as that...
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    Last edited by Nalien; 09-17-2014 at 08:57 PM.

  3. #223
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    HEC-'s Avatar
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    La La'
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRain View Post
    A FC has to acquire rank 8 to buy any size home . S , M , L any size rank 8. BUT if you want a personal house all you need is gil. No rank nothing speical . Just money. And you get all the perks of a FC small or large.
    Actually - you're wong on all accounts.

    1. FC needs "only" rank 6, not 8 (and that could be done solo under 3 weeks, with smaller FC of about 10 active members in less than week)

    2. You need more than "just money" - at least one class / job at lvl 50 and "maxed" GC rank - this will take a couple of days too so you can't just create 7 alts and purchase multiply plots instantly.

    3. No - you don't get all the perks of the FC house - you can't share it (you can only have "visitors"), can't have private room(s) - to lets say add more gardens if those will be introduced later, can't have anyone else taking care of your house and gardens on and so on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Destinova View Post
    And about the comment about secondary characters Make houses account wide if players so wish to do so.
    And how exactly would that work for alts on another servers? ALts are completely separate entities with independent economy so this suggestion makes no sense. The problem lies in SE not providing enough wards, not in a few players with alts buying extra couple of houses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinks View Post
    All desire to play this game left me the minute I read the patch notes this morning.
    I've had this heart-breaking feeling already twice, first after reading the patch notes (and all consequent F***-OFF replies from Yoshi) about FC Housing and then now after reading this patch notes. One more time and I'm outa-here ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sramdi View Post
    There are a number of activities in-game that can't be accomplished without a fair amount of investment.
    Care to elaborate? I'm yet to find such content. So far I'm fully capable to provide anything I need without any payments / purchases (aside of the Housing indeed and non-craftable / non-gatherable items like garden plots, stables or krakka root seeds).
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    Last edited by HEC-; 09-17-2014 at 10:22 PM.

  4. #224
    Player
    faris's Avatar
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    Est Mist
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I'd actually transfer in a heart beat if they didn't mess with my Gil.
    If I were you, and I really wanted to change I'd make an alt on server destination of choice, find out what sells, sink your money into buying that and sell when you get there. It's the only way to stop having your gil stolen via the transit. Not ideal, but.
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  5. #225
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    Kimikryo's Avatar
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    Kimikryo Torahige
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 74
    Oh look another one of those QQ topic on page 1 about housing, as if there were not enough
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  6. #226
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    Seif's Avatar
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    Seif Dincht
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 72
    Why are people pretending like the cost of the house is the only issue here.

    Even if we dropped everything to grind gil until 2.4 the number of plots still doesn't cover even 1%
    of the playerbase.

    There is no planned fix for this.

    I can't wait until game sites start running articles on this bluff the devs used to entice players into the game.
    They really deserve all the bad karma by lying like this.
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  7. #227
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    Mattlex's Avatar
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    Onion Lord
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by 16bitBounty View Post
    I'm not at all surprised. They've mucked up every patch since I came back: Glamours, Chocobo training, Chocobo dyeing, hunts, AF augments.
    This!!! The AF Augments are still a complete and utter joke! I still think this is a much bigger joke than the current housing situaion. I mean at least we have personal rooms, FC housing, Inn's. but the cost of the items you need to dye your AF is utter nonsense! Why is this not fixed yet!?
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  8. #228
    Player Kayo's Avatar
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    Kayo Vedo
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Hello,

    The following is a comment from Producer and Director Naoki Yoshida.
    You know, im getting a little sick and tired of Yoshi's excuses. Just how many times is he going to screw most of his players over some 1%'ers who have too much gil? Havent we heard this before? Howd that work out? Because it seems to me like youre just trying to do the same damned thing that didnt work last time.

    Also, wtf do gold sellers want with housing? Do you really believe theyre going to waste a single gil buying a 100% prop? For what? Farming? Are you kidding me!?!? You think they're going to drop valuable gold to buy a house, despite the fact they risk getting banned and losing all that gil. Or are they not afraid of that anymore?

    Yoshi, your excuses are sad and thin. You and your team constantly keep coming out with what are supposed to be fun features, ruined by your knack for gating them behind some stupid RNG, or mundane task that takes away all the fun and replaces it with frustration. You are making the same condescending mistakes Tanaka did with his design philosophy and its getting tiresome. I returned to FFXIV after the first time I got sick of your crap in hopes that maybe things have improved and that Personal Housing, the Rogue/Ninja class, and Golden Saucer would shed some new light but its become quite clear that youll only find some idiotic way of screwing things up. Let me guess... Golden Saucer games will cost an arm and a leg again because ... you know ... rich players. Right? Maybe place Ninja's behind some month long grind? I honestly would not be surprised at this point. You can keep it ... im done until I see some improvements.
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    Last edited by Kayo; 09-17-2014 at 09:36 PM.

  9. #229
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    Liokora's Avatar
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    Liokora Wipefever
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 83
    I'm so disapointed about this... This comic is exactly how I feel T^T
    Housing was what I waited the most, in other MMOs it's abordable but FFXIV... o.o That's too bad because I really love FFXIV universe and that's why I don't want to leave T^T





    PS : appologies if there is spelling errors, I'm french and not fluent in english >.< I just wanted to cry with everyone T_T

    Bigger resolution here : http://liokora.deviantart.com/art/In...=1&ga_recent=1
    http://liokora.deviantart.com/art/In...253A1410958009
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  10. #230
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    Santherelle's Avatar
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    Santhelle Valentione
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by faris View Post
    If I were you, and I really wanted to change I'd make an alt on server destination of choice, find out what sells, sink your money into buying that and sell when you get there. It's the only way to stop having your gil stolen via the transit. Not ideal, but.
    Actually buying alagan silver, bronze, gold etc from the Markets are probably the way to go. Even with the markups on the MB it will probably the best way to get close to the same gil.
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