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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    However, there is currently no reason why SCoB should have a lockout since ilvl progression pacing is no longer an issue.
    Well, apart from prescedent. And allowing people to skip to t9 without succeeding at 6-8.

    Personally the ONLY way I would be happy on the day that coil lockouts are removed, is if the lesser tiers still MUST be cleared once on that character, before the latter ones can be unlocked.

    They didn't for first coil. I wish they had. Far too many scrubs I've met who skip T4, have never done it, and never will. Perish the thought that now they can't do T7 lol.
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    Raxion Gunsoul
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    Brynhildr
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Well, apart from prescedent. And allowing people to skip to t9 without succeeding at 6-8.

    Personally the ONLY way I would be happy on the day that coil lockouts are removed, is if the lesser tiers still MUST be cleared once on that character, before the latter ones can be unlocked.

    They didn't for first coil. I wish they had. Far too many scrubs I've met who skip T4, have never done it, and never will. Perish the thought that now they can't do T7 lol.
    I'd agree with this, if the previous turns actually did anything to prepare you for the next, but they don't. T7 isn't going to prepare you for T9. The only way you're going to learn T9, is to do T9.

    I see many people skipping T7 when it gets unlocked, just because of how intricate the fight is. I think T6 and T8 will be the biggest farm encounters when 2.4 hits. T9 will be the same hurdle, for most people, that T5 was and still is today. With Echo, though, T9 should be quite a lot easier than T5 in comparison. I'm looking forward to being able to MT T9 with my WAR due to echo, instead of having to swap to PLD for T9.
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Well, apart from prescedent. And allowing people to skip to t9 without succeeding at 6-8.

    Personally the ONLY way I would be happy on the day that coil lockouts are removed, is if the lesser tiers still MUST be cleared once on that character, before the latter ones can be unlocked.

    They didn't for first coil. I wish they had. Far too many scrubs I've met who skip T4, have never done it, and never will. Perish the thought that now they can't do T7 lol.
    The trouble is the kind of MMO model he is now emulating in full force. This is part of the rat race treadmill condition people are now very familiar with: a lot more familiar with than people were back in the early 2000s when MMOs were still rising in popularity. Basically the trick is to make some kind of content that can only be cleared through and seen by a small percentage of people. Those people effectively advertise the place by wearing the higher level gear and make others want to do it, followed by those other people trying the content. Eventually this pattern goes to the lowest common denominator and leaves the least capable and the late comers bashing their heads on content they can't clear because the ones who have cleared it are now just farming and want nothing to do with the other people trying to learn the content still.

    The fact is they don't need to remove lock outs as much as just make an easier version of the content that players can go through first. Then everyone gets to see all the different bosses + cutscenes and can go and do the harder versions in whatever order they want.
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    Last edited by Colt47; 09-20-2014 at 10:31 PM. Reason: grammar

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    Avarghaladion's Avatar
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    Avarghaladion Thaliiavas
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    Sargatanas
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    The fact is they don't need to remove lock outs as much as just make an easier version of the content that players can go through first. Then everyone gets to see all the different bosses + cutscenes and can go and do the harder versions in whatever order they want.
    Then there's still the issue of only being able to play the most challenging content in the game once per week, and only effectively with a static. If one doesn't work a steady 9 to 5 or they've a flexible irl schedule for whatever reason a static is near impossible, and since most of the people who want it static it it makes PFing it very annoying. It's just an antiquated and poorly thought out design that punishes people with different work commitments, at worst, and at best makes for very bored people who only get to play the game once a week, if SCOB is all they've left to do.
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