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    Player
    Westwind's Avatar
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    Tem Westwind
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Arky View Post
    You can own a house, and be in an FC. Just saying.
    Are you purposely arguing in bad faith? If I joined an FC with housing I would have to leave the one I'm currently in, where my friends are, to join another one.

    I would rather my FC be able to buy a house than buying one myself while the rest of my FC goes without.
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    Arky Mosuke
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Westwind View Post
    Are you purposely arguing in bad faith? If I joined an FC with housing I would have to leave the one I'm currently in, where my friends are, to join another one.

    I would rather my FC be able to buy a house than buying one myself while the rest of my FC goes without.
    No, what are you even getting at? If you move from one FC to another, you are moving houses if both own a house. If you buy a personal house in the wards, and start or join an FC, you still keep your personal house, while being in an FC with a house.
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    Selahdis Gharl
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhode View Post
    What is making it impossible for you to join an FC with housing?
    Personally? I've been part of the same FC since I began playing. Im not about to dismantle it and go find a house full of strangers. Housing released well after many FC's were established.
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    swordrain's Avatar
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    Yaaris Rowe
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhode View Post
    What is making it impossible for you to join an FC with housing?
    Like I'd leave my FC full of friends just so I could have a personal room to myself. Get real.
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    Rhode Schaeffer
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by swordrain View Post
    Like I'd leave my FC full of friends just so I could have a personal room to myself. Get real.
    Seems there is a misunderstanding here. You claimed you don't have the ability to enjoy personal housing and free company housing.

    Nothing is stopping you and your "FC full of friends" from buying even a small house.
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    Yaaris Rowe
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhode View Post
    Seems there is a misunderstanding here. You claimed you don't have the ability to enjoy personal housing and free company housing.

    Nothing is stopping you and your "FC full of friends" from buying even a small house.
    Yes there is. There is no availability. You don't understand the issue at all. The issue isn't price. There simply is no availability. Now we'll have to compete against not only other FCs (from which we already lost) but also individual players. You don't understand the issue whatsoever. Don't comment on it if you don't understand what you are commenting on.
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    OldGeezer's Avatar
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    Kallen Statdfeld
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by swordrain View Post
    Yes there is. There is no availability. You don't understand the issue at all. The issue isn't price. There simply is no availability. Now we'll have to compete against not only other FCs (from which we already lost) but also individual players. You don't understand the issue whatsoever. Don't comment on it if you don't understand what you are commenting on.
    No, it's you who doesn't understand at all. It's a free market and the early bird gets the worm. If you don't have the money to play it's not SE's fault you can't play at the table. You didn't plan for this properly. That doesn't entitle you to a subscription discount. That's where you are wrong. SE is releasing housing piecemeal so someone doesn't buy up all the housing in the game. It appeared to work when FC housing was released. They're doing the same here. You don't like it, quit, or wait until 2.4 for round 2.
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    Arky Mosuke
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    All I'm going to say is use your heads. You'll get it eventually, if you don't... I'm sorry. But SUBS ARE what will help keep this game alive. If you don't understand the position Square is in at the moment, then you're blissfully ignorant.
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    Yaaris Rowe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arky View Post
    All I'm going to say is use your heads. You'll get it eventually, if you don't... I'm sorry. But SUBS ARE what will help keep this game alive. If you don't understand the position Square is in at the moment, then you're blissfully ignorant.
    WoW has several times the amount of subs that ARR has, and WoW is completely paralyzed when it comes to adding very little content. This game comes out with far more content in a shorter time and it takes far less money for SE to do it.

    Paying subs isn't what spurns them to make content. It's the desire for success and pleasing your customers. Personal housing right now is a huge failure, and doesn't please customers. You don't understand the position they are in. If it was really the way they said it was, they should have WAITED until patch 2.4 to release it AT ALL. But no. They used personal housing as a way to keep us subbed for just a few months longer. You know what they call that in english?

    Deception.
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    Arky Mosuke
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by swordrain View Post
    WoW has several times the amount of subs that ARR has, and WoW is completely paralyzed when it comes to adding very little content. This game comes out with far more content in a shorter time and it takes far less money for SE to do it.

    Paying subs isn't what spurns them to make content. It's the desire for success and pleasing your customers. Personal housing right now is a huge failure, and doesn't please customers. You don't understand the position they are in. If it was really the way they said it was, they should have WAITED until patch 2.4 to release it AT ALL. But no. They used personal housing as a way to keep us subbed for just a few months longer. You know what they call that in english?

    Deception.
    You know what we call people that don't realize something. (Square Enix is in a bind and losing money even with Subs at the moment.)

    Blind.
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