Personal Housing Complaint Thread

[LineageRazor]

Unlike many, I always had super low expectations for what personal housing would be like. Heck, when we got our Personal Changes I nodded to myself, convinced that personal housing was already here. I was surprised to hear that REAL personal housing was still on the way, but given how SE complained about server limitations I kept an eyebrow skeptically cocked as to whether it could possibly live up to the expectations people had.

So, I'm pretty much unsurprised by how things turned out. This doesn't mean I don't think people should be angry. Yoshi-P's complete failure to come through on his promise for "affordable prices independent of Free Company prices" alone is worth an ocean of rage. I am nevertheless unsurprised.

Heck, on the pricing outrage, even THAT could have been easily averted. Just sell houses at a much lower price if bought by an individual rather than a FC. FC homes get advantages that personal homes don't, such as the ability to have private chambers and a stable (and maybe one day, an airship dock). With a Miniature Aethercite, they provide another thing personal homes don't: an additional teleportaion point available to everyone in the FC. So, charging FC's a higher price for the same plot of land is totally justified, but instead they decided to keep the price the same for both FC and personal buyers. It boggles the mind.

think consoles...

Consoles have nothing to do with storing housing database info. All a console needs to worry about is displaying all the data in the current area a character is in after retreiving it from the server databases. No, "PS3 limitations" don't apply here. This is a seperate issue.

[Shika]

Like everyone else I wasn't impressed to see that personal housing was so expensive.
For my server at least I considered the small housing prices ok (not great at 5mil but a bit more stomacheable)... but the medium and large is a bit of a joke (30mil+ and 70mil+).
I'm not sure if I agree with some people that housing should be a long-term goal. Having played the online final fantasy game that shall not be named and having my own personal space for free (if you discount subs), I was also sad to see that when FC house rooms were implemented players yet again had to pay. Considering that a lot of FC members worked hard together in money making schemes so that their FC could buy a house in the first place, it is a bit of a kick in the teeth to then have to pay again just to get a room in that house. Ok, 300k is not such a big deal, and yes we have inn rooms... But inn rooms are not at a central hub with the people you play with the most (and I for one very rarely use it unless I need to access my armoire). They don't "feel" right to me- just a personal opinion.

The biggest disappointment is that after being told we were to finally have personal housing released, which a lot of us were REALLY looking foward to, we get two miserly wards that sold out extremely quickly. Now we are back to waiting again... and even Yoshi can't tell us if the extra housing wards will be ready in time for the next patch in one month's time.
So, yes personal housing was released, but only a small number of people have been able to benefit from it this patch and now we have to get on the SE merry-go-round again and brace ourselves for further disappointment in the next patch.

Meh, it's all been said before I know and you can't keep all of the people happy all of the time etc etc. Still can't help feeling that this to me was one of the biggest disappointments - I was really interested in having a place to put my own stamp on and be able to finally do some gardening (seeing as the FC garden patches are never free). "Warrior of the Light" ? Most of us are "Wanderer without a Home".

[Isius]

I haven't logged in to see this mess yet, but this sounds extremely wrong, so how are smaller FC's ever going to get a FC house when individuals can just buy up that land for their own use? /facepalm

[Phenidate]

I wonder how many people will have this in their sig as a form of protest. We should just do that and make it a thing.

You have my axe!

[Phenidate]

Consoles render client side stuff just fine, including furnishings and housing. They can render an inn room? They can easily render a mog house.

[Waeksyn]

Personal housing is certainly a let-down.

This doesn't affect me much because I did my own "personal house" by leveling up a solo FC and buying a small plot for my 1 man FC. The lot next to me was un-occupied but I logged in too late today to buy it (wanted it to have another garden plot).

Personal housing could have been so much better and creative. I have to think that this is a change in SE's original plan (thus the glaring difference in Yoshida's post), likely driven by business case and development cost.

[jadan2000]

i don't normally come on forums to complain, as i don't like all the trolling that goes on in them, but this needed to happen today.

Im not sure who thought this was a good idea but it definitely is a slap int he face to us. Now when you made the FC land prices alot of us were upset because it was really alot of money, but when you work with your FC to build funds, it made sense. It was a community thing to do... This makes no damn sense what so ever!! We are only one person. On my server its 4 million just for the smallest house on the worst plot of land. which basically gives me the same space as a damn FC room! You guys really need to make a change on this. personal housing should in now way shape or form cost as much as FC housing!

Also Mr, yoshida, could you explain how this is supposed to be more affordable then FC housing? Maybe there is something we are missing..

[Linka]

Just trowing my 2 cents in here, there has been enough walls of text posted.
Im simply disappointed. The poor and misleading communication made me feel tricked and the bad realisation makes me feel like SE dont gives a damn about us. I am sure it was not intendet, and difficult things happend during developing the housing system, and its not allways easy to handle these. But how you managed it in the end felt like a slap in the face. This is my personal biggest downer that game gave me ever. Its like the trust you guys won back in the days as you took over the lead in 1.0, you just trashed it. I personally dont really know what to think of the devs anymore...

[Kling-Klang]

Very disappointing.

[Iroahni]

The way they handled personal housing will effect everyone. The problem is, we may not see the effects of it initially which is extremely dangerous. This empowers RMT and the well-off people who have leveled alts, allowing them to completely circumvent the free company leveling system for more gardening space.

This does not empower the common player, and it certainly does not empower any new players either. It dissuades them. This will have a long-lasting effect on player attrition and it will continue to either allow prices to stay the same and/or drive them up further. This was nothing but a negative choice, period. Resource potential that could have been used to the benefit of everyone wasn't and was instead given to the very people that have more than enough. Nobody will be spared from this effect, remember that.