Personal Housing Complaint Thread

[Niwashi]

Yoshida's latest attempt at appeasing his audience is just making it worse.
Regarding Housing Plot Availability in Patch 2.38 and Beyond
They're going to work really hard on improving their systems, so hope to be able to double the plots by Patch 2.4. And that's exactly the problem. They need hundreds of wards and tens of thousands of plots, but they seem to think that simply doubling them would count as being "A large amount." They're totally clueless, and it makes no sense. They know how many characters there are per server. They have no excuse for not knowing that they'll need at least that many houses. (A few players won't want housing, but that's likely to be less than the number of FCs that want houses.)

Pricing is a bit of an issue (and one that's exacerbated by the earlier claims that it would be different), but that's minor in comparison. I've got half a million gil and can foresee being able to build that up to 4 million eventually. That'd be enough for a small house (which is really the size that makes the most sense for a personal house anyway). But I can't see ever being able to get access to a house plot, given how they're being handled. They sell out entirely before I can even have time to download the patch, and I'm sure the same will happen with 2.4 and any other update that adds a few more wards as though that would solve the issue.

Adding a few additional wards isn't going to fix the problems. They'd need hundreds of new wards, and it doesn't sound like their systems are ever going to be able to handle that. They should have re-designed a different type of housing system, probably fully instanced so houses only exist on the servers while the player is there. That would free up the space of all the houses for players currently offline or currently busy in other areas of the game, enabling a virtually limitless number of houses to be sold. Just give us a private little clearing big enough for a cottage and yard, and let everyone get one. The furnishings, gardening plots, stables, etc., can all be recycled from the FC housing wards, so none of those details need to be re-developed. Just give us a personal place to put them.

Since my current sub lasts 'til then, I guess I'll wait and see what 2.4 actually brings. If they change their mind about just uselessly doubling the wards and instead give us a REAL personal housing system, then I'll stay. Otherwise, it looks like the housing system has just killed ARR.

[Metabug]

Can't feel your suffering. Just bought a house in the first ward. Still have some money to spare.

[Kule]

Since v1 they talk about personnal housing, they said they had a tons of ideas and were able to do a special add on for it if they really wanted to put everything. Several times, personnal housing was posponed for many reasons but they said there were working hard on it and will do their best for keeping their planning...

What have they done? Nothing cause all elements were already here for FC housing so why pospone personnal housing again and again for nothing? I don't understand.

Personnal housing could be great but they ruined this content aswell, it becomes borring.

The funny thing is FC housing was SE retrofitting personal housing to be something else as they didn't foresee the playerbase coming back for 2.0.

Before 2.0 was out everytime they showed off the housing zones they always called it personal housing and it's obvious when you realise how small 'small' houses actually were before the basement.

This is just a huge mess and it's amazing no one at SE thought it would be taken badly by the playerbase.

[ValVae]

Apparently it is the end of the world. I've seriously never seen this much whining about something this unimportant in a game ever.

[Phenomena]

Apparently it is the end of the world. I've seriously never seen this much whining about something this unimportant in a game ever.

This is more or less about principle. The fact that the community was specifically told that personalized housing would be something everyone could enjoy at more reasonable cost. Many different players form the FFXIV community. You have your hardcore raiders, your role players, your people that are there for nothing more than to mingle with friends and to ostracize any group in the community is to say "that player's money is better than the others." We all pay a premium price for what's supposed to be a premium title. Don't get me wrong - I know the Dev team probably has their hands full with server space allocation issues, but the players pay them to deal with those problems so we don't have to. Every time there's heat after a major patch it's normally due to unfulfilled or broken promises. The people that are angry deserve to be. This is something they were looking forward to because they were told "Please look forward to it." As for me I played the game A LOT during the initial 9 months after release and then I took a break to do other things. For those of you guys that waited out the full year for a personal space I'm truly sorry. However, if you want your voice to be heard and for SE to understand that you pay for a premium product and expect premium results and not short cuts stop paying them. The game runs off of your subscription fees and when they see those dollars no longer rolling in at the rate they were they'll crack down and address the reason for it. It's a basic law of business and at the end of the day that's what this is for them: Business.

[KuroganeAre]

I don't know why I expected more, when they don't put money into the servers. Pissed I had to settle for lavender beds, and pissed that so many got boned. I can't be "too" upset with the Dev team, since SE is responsible for servers and "need" to put money into FFXV, that game better be amazing.

[ValkyrieL]

Game boast 2.3 MILLION accounts, that does not = players, but at the least it should have 1million active players.
Personal Housing just seems like is accessible to most but is not. even in patch 2.4 the plots added are NOT remotely close to the demand.
there should be a minimum of 300-400k houses available and this possible but is not economical.
The excuse is the limited server resources...why not add more locations (servers) call it "Mist1", "Mist2" "Mist3" wards 1-10 and u could have hundreds of thousands of lands.

EDIT: In general I think everyone's expectations were too high because of comments made about housing been "affordable".

[nibelunc]

WHY is it every single time the exactly same thing with Square Enix since FFX?

Every single time I am looking forward, expecting a REAL simple thing they did perfectly before and every time I need to be very disappointed.

For example I am expecting a plain and simple chocolate cake.
They created the best chocolate cakes in town. Everyone loved them because no one else was able to create that tasteful cakes!
They say "NO! A chocolate cake is just not enough! Please look forward for the REAL big deal! Please be patient!"
After endless times of big promises I am finally looking forward for their big tasty chocolate cake and all I get is a tiny crumb.
They telling me "We are the big ones now. You can't have good things, because we have to create cakes for the entire world and please them all."

But is the world really happy with the new cakes?

(Damn what's inside these cakes )

[Kallera]

The question now isn't if Yoshida's proposed fix will fail in its inadequacy, but whether it fails by 2.4 or they cop some "further tests" to push it back to a 2.45 date.

"Please look forward to it" indeed.

[Resolute]

The over reaction is on fire in here. SE did a horrendous job explaining their choices and should of gave people a heads up. The bottom line is this. They saw that there was no way to get enough personal housing areas for 2.38 hell from the sound of it, it might not be for 2.4 either. So instead of giving folks nothing in housing and getting bashed. They decide to release a few new areas and also just open up all the current in game housing to individuals.

To combat everything getting bought in 15 min they left the pricing the same as fc housing to get some gil out of the game at the same time. They know who has the gil and who doesn't.

People need to take a step back and breathe.

From reading the forums, the main problem most people have is the fact that personal housing is tied with FC housing at all. To us, they have appeared to be "working" on personal housing this whole time, when really all they did was flip a switch, so to speak, on FC housing to allow individuals to buy them. They should have made a new system. Customizable inn rooms would be better than this, because then everyone could use it. It just doesn't make sense for personal housing to be the same houses as FC housing.