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  1. #101
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    Toxsik's Avatar
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    Toxsik Kisxot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshalte View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1685344

    "While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable."
    "Personal housing will be far more affordable than free company housing"

    I wouldn't be so upset about the prices if this hadn't already been said.
    Yup, figures they would mess this up. By the time they get it right some people will have a FC house, FC(room), FC(personal) house, FC(personal - room), insert some other broke and waste of those "oh so precious, resources" personal housing attempt. 2 years from now they finally get it right. By then some people have 5-6 different housing options... and no one will care at that point.

    I think most can agree that everyone pictured in their head a "personal house" whether that would have been a single instanced house or a housing area with other people in your area with a "personal house" would not have mattered to anyone. I feel like most were waiting like myself to have a smallish little house with a small front yard to finally be able to do personal gardening in. SE you did not deliver. opening 2 new instances for FC housing and allow people who are filthy rich to buy them is pure fail... and takes away from those fc's that where looking to buy a lot for their FC. which was a topic in the latest live letter. now those FC's have to fight to purchase FC land from people trying to buy a personal house.

    At this point I'll keep my personal room. SE why don't you guys add some gardening pots for private rooms already for being such a huge screw up.
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    Last edited by Toxsik; 09-17-2014 at 02:01 AM.

  2. #102
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    Kayo Vedo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linka View Post
    Just trowing my 2 cents in here, there has been enough walls of text posted.
    Im simply disappointed. The poor and misleading communication made me feel tricked and the bad realisation makes me feel like SE dont gives a damn about us. I am sure it was not intendet, and difficult things happend during developing the housing system, and its not allways easy to handle these. But how you managed it in the end felt like a slap in the face. This is my personal biggest downer that game gave me ever. Its like the trust you guys won back in the days as you took over the lead in 1.0, you just trashed it. I personally dont really know what to think of the devs anymore...
    My thoughts exactly, specially the bolded part. I mean wtf did we wait all this time for? All they did was essentially turn a 0 to a 1 and allowed players to buy what was already there for FC's. All this is feeling very familiar to the development philosophies of 1.0. Almost every feature we've been promised and looked forward to since (re)release has turned out to be full of unnecessary, redundant roadblocks which sole purpose revolves around cutting corners for them, and frustrating the living s**t out of players because to the FFXIV dev team, time/gil sinks > fun.

    Im starting to think its time to take a break. Maybe re-evaluate whether or not its worth continuing to invest time and money in this game and development team.
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    Last edited by Kayo; 09-17-2014 at 01:54 AM.

  3. #103
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    Buibui Chiobu
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    SE has really failed this big time.

    As if the 1st few housing failures are not enough.
    Why even bother? It was basically who can log in faster and run to the plots.

    Why did i even save up my gil?
    Why did i even put my hopes up after so many failures?
    Why did i even bother to standby at the moment server came up?

    I log in click residential and lo and behold .... All slot gone except those unaffordable mad prices.
    For every single area...

    Disappointment doesn't even cut it. Im plain angry. Its feels like i worked hard for no reason.

    So...should i even hold my hopes up for 2.4. (More plots? That what they say, but truth is, im sure it ll be a let down)

    Feels like i ve been lied to.
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  4. #104
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    The over reaction is on fire in here. SE did a horrendous job explaining their choices and should of gave people a heads up. The bottom line is this. They saw that there was no way to get enough personal housing areas for 2.38 hell from the sound of it, it might not be for 2.4 either. So instead of giving folks nothing in housing and getting bashed. They decide to release a few new areas and also just open up all the current in game housing to individuals.

    To combat everything getting bought in 15 min they left the pricing the same as fc housing to get some gil out of the game at the same time. They know who has the gil and who doesn't.

    People need to take a step back and breathe.
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  5. #105
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    I honestly don't care what the price is for personal housing, what made me very disheartened was seeing that its going to be limited plots on limited land in limited wards. Sure they can expand wards and add more but I had thought this was going to be something accessible to everyone once you met the requirements (Gil, GC rank, Level). I was really looking forward to eventually getting my own house at my own pace but now, unless I have the 70mil right when the wards are added, I doubt I will every be a land owner in this game. That is a crying shame...

    I just dont understand why they did it like this. This is something that is purely aesthetic and superficial, only uses casual content and has no bearing on end game. Furnishing don't add anything to your gameplay (stat increases, bonuses and the like) unless they are having the FC rank up system which makes no sense for the personal housing. I'm sure this has all already been mentioned and put more eloquently than I have said it here, I just wanted to add my 2 gil to the mix.

    My last hope for the game is that they can do the Golden saucer properly and how it all integrates into the rest of the game.
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  6. #106
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    Since v1 they talk about personnal housing, they said they had a tons of ideas and were able to do a special add on for it if they really wanted to put everything. Several times, personnal housing was posponed for many reasons but they said there were working hard on it and will do their best for keeping their planning...

    What have they done? Nothing cause all elements were already here for FC housing so why pospone personnal housing again and again for nothing? I don't understand.

    Personnal housing could be great but they ruined this content aswell, it becomes borring.
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  7. #107
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    Sora Burakku
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    Quote Originally Posted by f3re View Post
    The over reaction is on fire in here. SE did a horrendous job explaining their choices and should of gave people a heads up. The bottom line is this. They saw that there was no way to get enough personal housing areas for 2.38 hell from the sound of it, it might not be for 2.4 either. So instead of giving folks nothing in housing and getting bashed. They decide to release a few new areas and also just open up all the current in game housing to individuals.

    To combat everything getting bought in 15 min they left the pricing the same as fc housing to get some gil out of the game at the same time. They know who has the gil and who doesn't.

    People need to take a step back and breathe.
    Had they done it like Mog Houses in FFXI where it was a single home instance, then they could have allowed for every player to have their own house. They just needed to have permissions set and a way for people to ask for permission to enter your house. I guess they like the look of a community of houses where you can see your neighbor playing in their back yard. Its nice and all but really sucks for people like me who isnt concerned about being "First" for everything.
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  8. #108
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    I don't like complaining on forums. I don't like the forums, really.

    But this is horrid.

    1. One of the ways a company loses my faith is by literally lying to me. WTF. LYING.
    2. This is the exact contrary of making the game attractive to new people. Or anyone, really. I've already had friends drop out because the game offered NOTHING to them until they would finish the main story, and even after they would have to spend weeks and months saving up gil just so they can do what amounts to FLUFF. I have, at this point, no valid argument to attract my friends to the game.

    I don't know what else to say. This shouldn't be happening.
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  9. #109
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    You also have the wonderful issue of people who made Free Companies that have just 1 person in them just so they could have a house... who then turn around and buy a second one, leaving other people unable to buy a personal one.
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  10. #110
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    Soda Pop
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I rarely ever come and post on these forums, but this time I have to. This is such a huge letdown. I'm just blown away by how far the ball was dropped. This is something Tanaka of 1.0 would pull.

    Here are my reasons:
    - Not enough plots, some servers have like 75,000 people on them and you are telling me there are enough plots for each of these people?
    - Too expensive. 4mil minimum? Jesus man, I've been playing for a long time and I consider myself more hardcore than plenty of people and I have 1mil, I guarantee 99.9% of people will never be able to afford this.
    - Extremely lazy. You just tacked this onto the FC housing system. Honestly, the amount of effort you guys put into this is so small it's sad. You developed nothing, you just let us claim a spot in FC housing areas. It took you this long to do that? Wow.

    I'm just utterly disappointed. Complete and total letdown. Nothing else to say really.
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