Personal Housing Complaint Thread

[Phenidate]

Housing didn't need to be as complete as a whole house dangit. We've taken a whole step backwards from moghousing here people. Instead of housing for each player we now only have a small percentage of the player base being served by extremely expensive FC houses they buy for themselves.

This is something players could do already, with a bit of extra work. They just cut out twinking an FC to get the housing permit. It's literally a cut/paste job with requirements cut for one rich players to beat out other FCs that have been working towards a house.

[Qaaliaa]

My problem with all this is that on servers like Balmung there are many FCs without a house, even still. And those "personal houses" are shutting out FCs and, in turn, HUNDREDS of people from even a room in a FC house.

If server/resource space is so precious, this was the biggest waste of it ever created.

[AnaviAnael]

As AliceKaye and Qaaliaa have mentioned, I don't think SE realized how many FCs got screwed over by this patch.

Also, when they do release more wards, don't they realize the exact same thing will happen? Patch will go live, ten minutes later all the small plots are gone.

[AliceKaye]

As AliceKaye and Qaaliaa have mentioned, I don't think SE realized how many FCs got screwed over by this patch.

Also, when they do release more wards, don't they realize the exact same thing will happen? Patch will go live, ten minutes later all the small plots are gone.

Honestly, I don't think it's a lack of realization as to what will happen when they're full. I think the lack of realization is how many people will/have been interested in this feature. I think it's a lack of caring about it to begin with. But what they seem to forget is that we hold their company in our hands. We pay our monthly payments and we're the ones who buy their stock. When FFXIV 1.0 tanked, they felt that.That's why they did everything in their power to (i.e. starting completely over) in order to save face. I'm not saying that housing is anywhere near as detrimental as 1.0 was, but what I am saying is, if they continuously screw over their paying clients (us), people will begin to speak with their wallets and they're going to stop paying for lies.

Usually I just roll with the punches. They make their decisions and I do what I can with them. This time, I have an entire group of people who are going to be furious and disappointed and I am going to have to deal with them and their unrest at the situation, and it isn't even my decision in this matter.

They really need to retract this, rethink it and improve on this. All of these, 'sincerest apology' messages I've seen from Yoshida since this went live make me so angry. If you're so sorry, fix the damn problem.

[Phenidate]

Lets not forget folks, that they didn't need to add additional servers to handle our personal housing. Just have the new Mog Apartments replace our Inn rooms!

[Seif]

So at best they will be "doubled" according to the producer.

How the F is that acceptable?!


Even if they were quadrupled it wouldn't even begin to be enough.

This is supposed to be PERSONAL HOUSING!!!!!!!
Now which part of those two words are you not understanding?!?!


This is the worst housing system I've ever seen in a videogame and that means even PSU had a better system.
I feel utterly betrayed by this. I've been saving only for this one thing and all the gil I have by now is nowhere near enough for even the smallest of plots in the worst spot on the lowest pop server out there.

[LineageRazor]

Unlike many, I always had super low expectations for what personal housing would be like. Heck, when we got our Personal Changes I nodded to myself, convinced that personal housing was already here. I was surprised to hear that REAL personal housing was still on the way, but given how SE complained about server limitations I kept an eyebrow skeptically cocked as to whether it could possibly live up to the expectations people had.

So, I'm pretty much unsurprised by how things turned out. This doesn't mean I don't think people should be angry. Yoshi-P's complete failure to come through on his promise for "affordable prices independent of Free Company prices" alone is worth an ocean of rage. I am nevertheless unsurprised.

Heck, on the pricing outrage, even THAT could have been easily averted. Just sell houses at a much lower price if bought by an individual rather than a FC. FC homes get advantages that personal homes don't, such as the ability to have private chambers and a stable (and maybe one day, an airship dock). With a Miniature Aethercite, they provide another thing personal homes don't: an additional teleportaion point available to everyone in the FC. So, charging FC's a higher price for the same plot of land is totally justified, but instead they decided to keep the price the same for both FC and personal buyers. It boggles the mind.

think consoles...

Consoles have nothing to do with storing housing database info. All a console needs to worry about is displaying all the data in the current area a character is in after retreiving it from the server databases. No, "PS3 limitations" don't apply here. This is a seperate issue.

[Shika]

Like everyone else I wasn't impressed to see that personal housing was so expensive.
For my server at least I considered the small housing prices ok (not great at 5mil but a bit more stomacheable)... but the medium and large is a bit of a joke (30mil+ and 70mil+).
I'm not sure if I agree with some people that housing should be a long-term goal. Having played the online final fantasy game that shall not be named and having my own personal space for free (if you discount subs), I was also sad to see that when FC house rooms were implemented players yet again had to pay. Considering that a lot of FC members worked hard together in money making schemes so that their FC could buy a house in the first place, it is a bit of a kick in the teeth to then have to pay again just to get a room in that house. Ok, 300k is not such a big deal, and yes we have inn rooms... But inn rooms are not at a central hub with the people you play with the most (and I for one very rarely use it unless I need to access my armoire). They don't "feel" right to me- just a personal opinion.

The biggest disappointment is that after being told we were to finally have personal housing released, which a lot of us were REALLY looking foward to, we get two miserly wards that sold out extremely quickly. Now we are back to waiting again... and even Yoshi can't tell us if the extra housing wards will be ready in time for the next patch in one month's time.
So, yes personal housing was released, but only a small number of people have been able to benefit from it this patch and now we have to get on the SE merry-go-round again and brace ourselves for further disappointment in the next patch.

Meh, it's all been said before I know and you can't keep all of the people happy all of the time etc etc. Still can't help feeling that this to me was one of the biggest disappointments - I was really interested in having a place to put my own stamp on and be able to finally do some gardening (seeing as the FC garden patches are never free). "Warrior of the Light" ? Most of us are "Wanderer without a Home".

[Isius]

I haven't logged in to see this mess yet, but this sounds extremely wrong, so how are smaller FC's ever going to get a FC house when individuals can just buy up that land for their own use? /facepalm

[Waeksyn]

Personal housing is certainly a let-down.

This doesn't affect me much because I did my own "personal house" by leveling up a solo FC and buying a small plot for my 1 man FC. The lot next to me was un-occupied but I logged in too late today to buy it (wanted it to have another garden plot).

Personal housing could have been so much better and creative. I have to think that this is a change in SE's original plan (thus the glaring difference in Yoshida's post), likely driven by business case and development cost.