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    Player
    Stormrider's Avatar
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    Storm Rider
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 60
    I have seen one NA party 8 whms spamming holy. I am not sure if they had cleric stance up or not. Not sure if I ever resisted stun. But it was 100% interrupt. With zero cast ability you need to fan out and try to pick them off one by one. We never did get that flag. Still one the match.
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    Player Deelo's Avatar
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    Dee Loe
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    As a 'career' WHM in Frontlines, this change doesn't bother me because I rarely use Cleric Stance. I do feel bad for my SCH brethren though. I felt like that was their trade-off for not having burst/spike heals and a lot of CC tools.

    I blame all of these 'balance fixes' on the blatant lack of knowledge when it comes to gear and skill in Frontlines. For example, people complained that healers can out-heal their damage. Yes, idiots, because almost all of your gear has Parry (useless), Accuracy (useless), and Skill/Spell Speed (debatable in the right setup) on it. There is nothing more frightening than a properly geared DPS/Tank in Frontlines. Don't even get me started on a full Det/Crit MRD...I go down faster than a cheerleader at a frat party. Luckily for me, literally 95% of *everyone* I've come across in Frontlines (my group and opposing GCs) either don't know or don't care about gearing up to better themselves. Those dangerous MRDs or insane Monks are very few and far between. I can't examine enemies to see what they're wearing, but I can tell when one PLD is hitting me for 60-80 while another is hitting me for double that amount. Healers are winning 1vs1s not because they are overpowered, but because their opponents are pve retards. Unfortunately for everyone, the retards are the most vocal.
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    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 90
    Group of 4 WHM + cleric stance + holy.

    Yeah you guys deserved it. But a nerf instead of a removal is something I can agree on.
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    Theo Roninite
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Yeah as a result of this I am unlikely to ever heal again in PvP as it isn't worth the harassment of getting constantly targeted.
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    Jenova Life
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Theortand View Post
    Yeah as a result of this I am unlikely to ever heal again in PvP as it isn't worth the harassment of getting constantly targeted.
    Because Stone II or a couple of DoT's would prevent that from happening.
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    Player Adrian74's Avatar
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    I''''''''l I''''''''l
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    Phantom
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Oh, didn't notice there was another thread like this!....I already explained my opinions about the awful decision of removing Cleric Stance ... Goodbye to duality, balance, and fun... Goodbye to proper healing (At least having fun) in FL....

    Please check also the other post like this, and if possible comment it, make more posts, whatever that could be visible for SE.

    PS: Loved an image showed two posts above showing actually the differences between using good a scholar and using it bad.... So classes that can do some good things when using very good have to be nerfed, uh...

    PS2: Only interested in PvP as healer, DPS is DPS, Tank is DPS with more vit... Healer was only one that had different options and required you more multitask and analysis of the situation, in short, the harder to MAXIMIZE and because of that, the most useful and funnier. "Oh no! Having skills and people that knows how to use them is bad! Let's just do a auto-attack PvP"
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    Last edited by Adrian74; 09-17-2014 at 06:24 AM.

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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Well, it's not like I had much reason to want to PvP in the first instance, but now I'm even less inclined to go as a healer. Great job SE!
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    Avirex Idyll
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I would love to know what binding ability yous speak of for SCH. We have none and do not mention bliz II
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    K'atya Jhamei
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
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    What are you still on about? Killing a healer is not difficult. As I said, in my data center you simply don't see full alliances of White Mages so the videos you posted aren't an issue for us. However, if this is a thing in Japan then I understand why SE would want to counteract it. And Gor does have a point that we don't see the whole story behind that screenshot. That person could easily have been another class before switching so it isn't conclusive proof. If that is indeed their DPS output as Scholar, then I stand with you. A healer should not be able to do that much damage. But even if they could, then they're sacrificing heals so there is a penalty to it. Either way, I don't have the patience to argue this all night lol.
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    Last edited by Shake0615; 09-17-2014 at 08:28 AM.

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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Saviour Divinemight
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Shake0615 View Post
    What are you still on about?
    Why are you still complaining then? Video is always the best proof isn't it.
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