bards novus stats

[ClaireAbigail]

oh, and lookey at that, tonight's update introduces the Nexus Weapons. These weapons are the Item Level 115 Relic Weapons, and as such are in fact EQUAL to the High Allagan Weapons. Who'd of thunk it. :P

Nexus does not equal Novus .__. that's like saying Atma=Animus

FROM the looks for it Nexus=High allagan.....or Nexus might even be better assuming you play your cards right once we find out what card game it is.


then *insert TCoB allagan weapon here* is better than Nexus :P

[Tharian]

Actually based on my understanding that the Third Binding Coil of Bahamut is actually more than likely just a Fan Nickname for what Yoshida described as the Brutal Binding Coil of Bahamut, then no, the Third Binding Coil of Bahamut will not have a weapon that will be better than the Nexus Weapons because Yoshida has already been on the record as saying that the Brutal Binding Coil of Bahamut will not have Gear Rewards. Rather the reward for completing the Brutal Binding Coil of Bahamut will simply be a Title commemorating your achievement. (please note that I said this is MY understanding. Which means I could be completely wrong about the immediately preceding statement).

That said, the patch notes specifically indicate that depending on your Melds in the Novus phase, that yes in fact, the Nexus Weapon will be superior to the High Allagan Weapon due to the way in which the Nexus Weapon was designed by the development team. Regardless, now that the Relic Weapons have caught up to the Coil Weapons, that means that even if future installments of the Binding Coil do feature new gear at higher than 115 item levels, then the Relic Quest should likewise also be able to match those item levels relatively easily now. So there really shouldn't be any games of catch up between the Binding Coil Gear and the Relic Gear any longer. If anything it is now the Binding Coil Gear that has to catch up with the Relic Gear.

Also, please note that in my initial response to you, I specifically pointed out that I had said that the Novus Weapon is COMPARABLE to the High Allagan Weapon, not Equal to it.

The Definition of Comparable: Able to be likened to another; similar.
The Definition of Equal: being the same in quantity, size, degree, or value.

By the definition of Equal, only two Item Level 115 items would be equal to one another. However an item level 110 and an item level 115 weapon can both be compared to one another with little to no problem. In fact real world Weapon Specialists and Historians do the same thing all the time, comparing one type of weapon to another type of weapon, say a sword to an axe for example. It isn't that difficult.

[Drakuaza]

Thing

The Third Coil of Bahamut are the final turns, 10-13 I believe. And they will have higher ILV gear, estimates are 130-135.

What was mentioned, Yoshida was considering the posibility of delaying TCoB half patch and implement a Savage mode for the first 5 turns. However, it would be hard and they do not know if they would, since they don't have some (data?) about the first coil in order to do them.

[ClaireAbigail]

...There's gonna be a third coil of bahamut...it's literally the last set of turns where we're gonna fight *insert spoilers here*...... >__> it's not just a fan nickname.

oh...and High allagan weapon weapon dmg can't even compare to Novus weapons. Coil weapons are meant to be better. Novus will always loose to High Allagan weapon. In other words, Novus is not similar to High Allagan. If anything Novus is similar to UAT weapons their difference is minimal. High Allagan surpasses both by a significant amount. It isn't that hard sweetie.

[Tharian]

Actually, you are trying to say that it is impossible to compare the Novus and High Allagan Weapon in the same way it is impossible to compare a Bombard (a type of Mortar Style Cannon used in Medieval Europe) to the B41 Nuclear Bomb (which had a yield of 25 Megatons). Yet it is still possible to compare the two simply because without the existence of the Bombard, the B41 simply would never have been developed, as such a historical comparison between the two and their roles in history can be made.

Similarly the comparison I was making was intended more along the lines of secondary stats, rather than it being intended to be directed towards Primary Stats and Weapon damage.

[Drakuaza]

Actually, you are trying to say that it is impossible to compare the Novus and High Allagan Weapon in the same way it is impossible to compare a Bombard (a type of Mortar Style Cannon used in Medieval Europe) to the B41 Nuclear Bomb (which had a yield of 25 Megatons). Yet it is still possible to compare the two simply because without the existence of the Bombard, the B41 simply would never have been developed, as such a historical comparison between the two and their roles in history can be made.

Similarly the comparison I was making was intended more along the lines of secondary stats, rather than it being intended to be directed towards Primary Stats and Weapon damage.

You cannot compare them. Weapon damage is absolute. Secondary stats are not. Higher WD means it's better.

[Spawnie]

i see now why det is so important done a run with a guy with novus last night n his attacks hit so hard ll felt like i was using normal level 10 bow compared to his damage :P

once again tyvm every1 for the replies and info much appreciated :3

[Viridiana]

You cannot compare them. . . Higher WD means it's better.

"Higher" and "better" are both comparative forms of the adjectives "high" and "good," respectively. Clearly, you've just compared the two weapons. >_>

Now, if you meant, "You can compare them, but it's no contest," then you should maybe have said that. >_>

[Theplatter]

FYI, don't do 3 stats if you want to get the most out of your nexus. Friends that did two stats got (aside from the dex and vit raise) +2 to their first secondary and +1 to their other secondary. I did 3 stats (20 acc/32 crit/23 det) and only got +1 to my crit; the other two stats remained the same. I was later told that there was a threshold that you had to meet to get the bonus for your secondaries so I went back and changed the stats to 15/30/30, but again, only my crit was raised by one, and this at the cost of having to add seven savage might materia IV's. It would be nice if SE would have initially mentioned that there was indeed a threshold to meet so that players weren't wasting materia only to get shafted in the end, especially when RNG is a factor in melding onto the scrolls.

[MrCookTM]

There is a treshold and for det it is 31, so you will get the +1 if you go back and just put one more materia into your Novus. You can also meet the tresholds for a +3 increase if you do 3 stats, but it has to be 22 acc/22 crit/31 det for example.