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    Syrcus Tower was a terrible/irresponsible ....

    Issue was addressed in 3.x by Square-Enix via changing gear upgrade drops to the final boss.

    Thank you.
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    Last edited by Daniolaut; 02-09-2017 at 02:41 PM.

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    Square-Enix already came up with a better "another idea."
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    Last edited by Daniolaut; 02-09-2017 at 02:41 PM.

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    I already hate Syrcus Tower and it's still the first week. I was planning on getting an oil but after running it as much as i have and only seeing, and losing the roll, 3 times i gave up and got a pair of caster boots that are mostly useless to me just so i could get something for the week. Every few runs you get lucky and it goes smooth. The other runs.... well... not so much. Just like CT it makes me hate most of the playerbase. You could get an oil every week much easier from hunts than from ST.
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    So after one week most people have their oils since it wouldn't be on a loot lock out. Then we are right back to hunts because most people are really there for the sands to begin. Nothing gets solved. It gets better for a week or two at best and oils become trivialized to a week of CT runs to get them all. I think it would be ok to drop them from each boss, but the rate should be lowered slightly. It should remain on lockout though so that you don't trivialize them so much. This is 110 gear we are talking about. You shouldn't be able to 110 your entire right side in a week of back to back CT runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    So after one week most people have their oils since it wouldn't be on a loot lock out. Then we are right back to hunts because most people are really there for the sands to begin. Nothing gets solved.It gets better for a week or two at best and oils become trivialized to a week of CT runs to get them all.
    Take note i included oils and sands...... multiple times actually...

    Editing it in after I make my post doesn't fix it. You bolded in large letters and only mentioned oils. Anyone can look at the last edited times on our posts to see. My post at 6:19, your edit at 6:20. GG.

    You're edit doesn't change anything. Now it takes a week or two to have full i110. It's still a terrible idea whether you said oils or oils and sands.
    I edited the bold to say "%" drop from bosses. Both oils and sands were already there prior to your post.

    And just because you like cheating doesnt mean its a bad idea. Personally i'd rather have the player base split between ST and hunts instead of the majority on hunts and causing frustration between the player base, and giving a way for cheaters to obtain items faster. Its one thing for people to use the app to cheat through divebombs in turn 5 and whatever else it does, which is a weekly lock out, its another for them to be able to get more seals per day simply because they cheat. Idc if they get gear from coil easier its still only a certain amount of gear per week, this new cheating is not right since they literally gear faster and get alexandrite and other items.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulathskullsplitter View Post
    I already hate Syrcus Tower and it's still the first week. I was planning on getting an oil but after running it as much as i have and only seeing, and losing the roll, 3 times i gave up and got a pair of caster boots that are mostly useless to me just so i could get something for the week. Every few runs you get lucky and it goes smooth. The other runs.... well... not so much. Just like CT it makes me hate most of the playerbase. You could get an oil every week much easier from hunts than from ST.
    so youre saying you dont want a more balanced player base (some doing hunts some spamming ST, instead of the mass number doing just hunts) and a greater variety of options?
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    Last edited by Daniolaut; 07-14-2014 at 07:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Take note i included oils and sands...... multiple times actually...
    Editing it in after I make my post doesn't fix it. You bolded in large letters and only mentioned oils. Anyone can look at the last edited times on our posts to see. My post at 6:19, your edit at 6:20. GG.

    You're edit doesn't change anything. Now it takes a week or two to have full i110. It's still a terrible idea whether you said oils or oils and sands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Take note i included oils and sands...... multiple times actually...




    so youre saying you dont want a more balanced player base (some doing hunts some spamming ST, instead of the mass number doing just hunts) and a greater variety of options?
    I was agreeing there needs to be a better chance at getting oils from ST. As it is you could run ST 100 in a week and not get one. I dont agree to remove the weekly lock out yet but they should be able to drop from every boss and not just a 30% chance from the last boss. All this is leading to is in progress queue spamming by tanks looking for a quick run to the last boss.
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    I think S.T was created that way for v preventing people being to far ahead in the game. There are people who run these all day. If they were to get gear they won't come back to S.T anf stay on hunts since its faster.

    S.E did fine pin implementing this measure.

    Our people are too far ahead the new people can catch up your that gap as quickly.
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    IMO they should make the oil/sand/UAT on a separate lock. So you can only get 1 piece of equipment AND 1 of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xandim View Post
    IMO they should make the oil/sand/UAT on a separate lock. So you can only get 1 piece of equipment AND 1 of those.
    This is actually a great idea. Thanks!
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    Last edited by Daniolaut; 07-14-2014 at 07:51 AM.

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