Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

[NyarukoW]

I wiped multiple Brayflox speedrun attempts when I was still new. All I ever got was "sorry, didn't check healer's gear."

You obviously didn't run it daily for the next 100 days. But some people can get lucky. But the speed runners will do that full pull up that bridge and cuss at with "!@#$%^& no heals?". Seen that at least a dozen times. And sometimes the tank rage quit and strand everyone else. I even had a tank tell the healer, that because they "expletive" can't heal the full pull it was destroying all the fun he had in game and he was going to quit.

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Wow. . .you have some serious issues with logic.

No your logic is broken. You don't understand logic. Your memory alone is not an adequate sample set and it could be faulty as you say " still drawing a blank." Or it could be that your had chats turned off and never see any of the yelling. Or you do not consider any of the yelling between players as "angry". Or you could have done all your dungeons with your FCs so avoid any of the DF fund and drama. In any case it is your logic that is faulty.

[Viridiana]

No your logic is broken. You don't understand logic.

I was referring specifically to the attempt to equate Elim with a man defending misogyny.

I'll be the first to admit that my memory is faulty. But you also don't see me weighing in either way as to which group has a higher number or percentage of a-holes.

[Snugglebutt]

I was referring specifically to the attempt to equate Elim with a man defending misogyny.

I'll be the first to admit that my memory is faulty. But you also don't see me weighing in either way as to which group has a higher number or percentage of a-holes.

The example is sound in the context of what I was referring to which is the type of behavior I gave an example of earlier.

[NyarukoW]

... But you also don't see me weighing in either way as to which group has a higher number or percentage of a-holes.

So probably wouldn't weigh on Ray Rice case either, because Janay hit Ray too. You people get tricked by the false equivalences so easily, that you don't know the flaw in that logic.

It is a irrefutable fact that speed-runner are unhappy with the new players. They've made enough posts on this forums to make that abundantly clear. And there are plenty posts of newer players complaining about being vote kick abuse by those speed runners for reasons ranging from watching cutscenes to being undergeared a bit. The problem is the speed runners not spending time to communicate and coordinate, because by definition it is not a speed run anymore if you have to do that.

Now the controversy has moved to the hunt, because those same speed runners are trolling hunts, because they don't want to communicate, coordinate, and they just want to early fast pull the marks. New content same problem from the same trolls.

Remember the week Syrcus tower was released, every ST run, somebody was raging at someone else about how even kindergarteners !@#%% knew that fire and ice made water. if you get to that point, by definition everyone is if you get to that point, unless you count the 1st-timers to those as newbies. It is way more common to see impatient experienced players cussing out the player that are just relatively newer than them.

[Viridiana]

So probably wouldn't weigh on Ray Rice case either, because Janay hit Ray too. You people get tricked by the false equivalences so easily, that you don't know the flaw in that logic.

I don't even know what you're talking about. >_>

I assume I should know these people? Are they famous or something?

As for what appears to be a blatant attempt to get me to defend spousal abuse, I'll simply say that the entire thing is effed up, regardless of any statistics. It shouldn't happen, full stop.

It is a irrefutable fact that speed-runner are unhappy with the new players.

Yep, and I won't try to refute it. Well, that certain speed-runners are unhappy, anyway. I mean, there is that small demographic that's happy either way. Yes, you have the people abusing vote-kick against people watching cutscenes, but you also have healers standing outside boss rooms to wait for them even though they'd also be fine with a speed run.

It is way more common to see impatient experienced players cussing out the player that are just relatively newer than them.

Anecdotally, I'll agree. I'll even go so far as to say that I wouldn't be surprised if it remains true when properly researched. Of course, you'll never get a full data set of all players, and even if you do you're limited to what information is available in the game, which isn't everything. You wouldn't have anything to go off of that isn't in the chat window, which is missing a lot of data, basically.

Then again, there are still jerks on both sides, and probably always will be. Best you can really do is report them as appropriate and move on.