Dungeons and ANGRY PEOPLE !

[Elim]

Elim, when you say "only" new players are the bad ones in your first comment in this thread then try to hide behind "in my experience..." your fooling noone. (had to shorten this again, sorry).

Honestly, the only angry people I see in low level dungeons are the newbies themselves.

I didn't say that newbies are the only angry people and that vets can never be angry or any of the other stuff you guys seem to want to put into my posts. I said newbies are the only angry people I SEE in low level dungeons. You can keep saying that it's not possible, but it doesn't change the fact that it is my experience.

[Snugglebutt]

I didn't say that newbies are the only angry people and that vets can never be angry or any of the other stuff you guys seem to want to put into my posts. I said newbies are the only angry people I SEE in low level dungeons. You can keep saying that it's not possible, but it doesn't change the fact that it is my experience.

What? Your making no sense since both mean the same thing...

You saying the only people/see is no different to saying the only people/in your experience which you later fell back on as an excuse. It's the same thing, your claiming the only rude and angry people you have seen/experienced while leveling from 1-50 in dungeons (multiplied by five times in your case on DoW/DoM classes) is the newbies/new players still in both cases. You cannot get out of it by trying to change a few words, especially when both your phrases mean the same thing. Your lying and everyone knows it.

[Elim]

What? Your making no sense...

You saying the only people/see is no different to saying the only people/in your experience which you later fell back on as an excuse. It's the same thing, your claiming the only rude and angry people you have seen/experienced while leveling from 1-50 in dungeons (multiplied by five times in your case on DoW/DoM classes) is the newbies/new players still in both cases. You cannot get out of it by trying to change a few words, especially when both your phrases mean the same thing. Your lying and everyone knows it.

No...YOU'RE making no sense. lol. Seriously.

I said that that is my experience. Just because it's my experience doesn't mean it will be other peoples experience. It also does not mean that my experience is fake because you did not experience it.

I'm not dumb and think just because my experience is that newbies are mean that everyones experience will be the same as mine.

I shared my experience because I wanted to show the flip side of the coin. That newbies can be mean. Why is that a hard to understand?

[Snugglebutt]

No...YOU'RE making no sense. lol. Seriously.

I said that that is my experience. Just because it's my experience doesn't mean it will be other peoples experience. It also does not mean that my experience is fake because you did not experience it.

I shared my experience because I wanted to show the flip side of the coin. That newbies can be mean. Why is that a hard to understand?

Your a liar. That's plain to see even if you try to hide being 'in my experience' as there is no way in hell that you leveled from 1 to 50 multiplied by five dungeon character classes all to level 50 yet never once had a bad veteran player being rude or angry, you also did not say newbies could be mean, you was very specific in saying only the newbies are mean despite hiding behind 'in your experience' attempt at a get of jail free card which is not working. You did not want to show the flip side of the coin else you would of just said you have also come across rude new players not just veteran ones, instead you lied to deflect blame from veterans to new players by claiming only new players are the angry and rude ones of which using the in your experience card does not make a difference when you have leveled 1-50 five times on dungeon classes as it makes your lie as obvious as godzilla sitting in someones front garden playing the lute.

[MomomiMomi]

Your a liar. That's plain to see even if you try to hide being 'in my experience' as there is no way in hell that you leveled from 1 to 50 multiplied by five dungeon character classes all to level 50 yet never once had a bad veteran player being rude or angry, you also did not say newbies could be mean, you was very specific in saying only the newbies are mean despite hiding behind 'in your experience' attempt at a get of jail free card which is not working.

I've also not had that experience with veteran players being rude or angry. Don't know why you automatically assume it's a lie. Note: I'm specifically talking about in low level dungeons.

[Snugglebutt]

I've also not had that experience with veteran players being rude or angry. Don't know why you automatically assume it's a lie. Note: I'm specifically talking about in dungeons.

I don't believe you. Anyone who has leveled from 1-50 at least once has had at least one rude or angry player whom does not fit into the new player category of first class on first character, not unless they have never done any dungeons while leveling to 50 which by proxy means never completed the main story quest line or they have never ran a dungeon without anyone except FC members/friends.

[NyarukoW]

I've also not had that experience with veteran players being rude or angry. ....

Go do some Brayflox HM on the DF. Perhaps the speed runner don't infest that one nearly as much as they used too. Go do expert roulette then. Go as your WHM, either way if you slow down a little bit, watch them speed runner get mad at you. It doesn't take much. Chat with your FC for 10 seconds and they get mad at you, I've seen them abuse the vote kick and kick a WHM that got thru the first boss just fine on Stone Vigil HM, but because the WHM was chatting with other members of our FC, the tank went got himself wipe, they voted to kick the WHM. Then everyone had to abandon because the wait got long. LOL.

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This is SO TRUE. .......

Go bogus. Someone must not be able to detect a troll properly. That green sprout is just cover for the trolls using their alt smurf characters. Trolls act like that, because they want to troll you and get a rise out of you. Vote kick is what you do the trolls.

[MomomiMomi]

Go do some Brayflox HM on the DF. Perhaps the speed runner don't infest that one nearly as much as they used too. Go do expert roulette then. Go as your WHM, either way if you slow down a little bit, watch them speed runner get mad at you. It doesn't take much. Chat with your FC for 10 seconds and they get mad at you, I've seen them abuse the vote kick and kick a WHM that got thru the first boss just fine on Stone Vigil HM, but because the WHM was chatting with other members of our FC, the tank went got himself wipe, they voted to kick the WHM. Then everyone had to abandon because the wait got long. LOL.

I wiped multiple Brayflox speedrun attempts when I was still new. All I ever got was "sorry, didn't check healer's gear."

[Elim]

Your a liar. That's plain to see even if you try to hide being 'in my experience' as there is no way in hell that you leveled from 1 to 50 multiplied by five dungeon character classes all to level 50 yet never once had a bad veteran player being rude or angry, you also did not say newbies could be mean, you was very specific in saying only the newbies are mean despite hiding behind 'in your experience' attempt at a get of jail free card which is not working.

Why do you think that I need to "lie". What would "lying" get me on a forum full of strangers that I don't care about?

You keep trying to twist and change my words, or you simply don't understand what I'm typing. Either way, I can see that you will keep doing that so there is honestly no point in this conversation. Oh well.

[Snugglebutt]

Elim, I explained why your doing so in my opinion already, that you saw a thread pointing out the flaws of veteran players and somehow felt they were referring to you or all veteran players like when misogyny is brought up in discussions a lot of men become defensive even if not referring to them personally. Like in those types situations it seems you felt in this case the need to deflect it back on the new players by coming up with a lie when saw veteran players getting some blame for bad behavior...but you took that lie to far which made it blatant as far as myself and others have pointed out. If your going to make something up at least make it believable, like you comes across many or a lot, even mostly in your experience is more believable than only new players nonsense you claim.