Frontlines suggestion - allow member switching before the fight starts?

[AxelDH]

I'm sure we've all been in games where the 3 alliances have poor member distribution at the start. Say, alliance A has no healers while alliance B has 6. Or Alliance C only has 1 person in it because the other 7 were AFK when the duty popped. Perhaps one alliance has no members with a useful limit break.

I think it would be good in these kind of situations if, before the game starts, you could request to swap members between alliances.

I think it could work by nominating yourself to switch to alliance A/B/C (and if that alliance is already full, one of their players would have to nominate himself to switch the other way), and the switch would depend on a majority of players voting to accept it.

[Zyphione]

I think solution is for player to play more than single class? Is this type of problem common in NA server group?

[Divinemight]

I think solution is for player to play more than single class? Is this type of problem common in NA server group?

Yes, this is what happening with NA:

Twin Adder always have problem with being out numbered. Always start with missing 6 to 8 players, and queue time is either instant or 2 to 5 mins. Due to physical guild location, they got Bard and White Mage mostly, lack of real meele units in capture the flag.

Flames is in better shape, but may be due to physical guild location, their players are mainly Paladins, Monks, and Black Mages. They also seems to have problem with both Market and Temple. They can only win when send groups to camp both GC spawn.

Malestorm is over populated, but their members are not willing to switch even queue can goes up to 1 hour. Reasons may be from higher winning ratio in first month or the GC gear looks best.

[Zyphione]

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I understand now, some game you join have 2 full team but last team only 2 person? So you want to make it that maybe balance and become 1 full team and split 5/5? That way easier to play?

But Axel premise is 'playing class they want to play'? But that is point of queuing with set class. This become very personal player problem again. What if many do not want play healer or tank? Switch alliance won't change much? I read board and gathered that majority of NA player do not like to change class for sake of other or just AFK most of time? If these player still common then I do not think suggestion would hold much reason.

I am not sure how system works with Alliance and if switching possible or determine as you queue because this system also affect tower raid dungeon. Developer only state before that can queue as FC but they already would determine team so switching might not be possible?

I think problem here is people refuse to play class and other have to let them have their way.
But this not good encouraging of behavior in long run because those player will always be like this. This is player attitude problem? Do not want to change class to help party win? Then really not much SqE can do.

Is this right?

[Atreus]

Flames is in better shape.......They can only win when a premade or two carries them.

Fixed that for you.

[AxelDH]

I think solution is for player to play more than single class? Is this type of problem common in NA server group?

When you have players who are willing and able to switch classes, then that's fine. But it isn't always the case.

And its a shame when you have plenty of people in the relevant roles already, but they are simply distributed poorly. If they were able to switch alliances, more people would be able to play the classes that they wanted to play.

[Zyphione]

Thread starter mention switching people between Alliance ABC?
That become internal GC problem where they trade member within GC instead of trading between GC. I think NA side have more problem because player do not want to play for many reason.. but not much can be done until 2.4 when new PvP content and item come out if looking for motivating more player to join.

[Klive]

Being able to balance out the teams in the alliance would be nice. I've been in a group of just 2 people more than once, I would of loved to just join the fuller groups in the alliance.

[Deelo]

Please no. The way it is now will (hopefully) motivate people to level/play more classes and be useful. Besides any and every chance I get to avoid Team B, I'll take it.

[Divinemight]

Please no. The way it is now will (hopefully) motivate people to level/play more classes and be useful. Besides any and every chance I get to avoid Team B, I'll take it.

What is wrong being team B? Just curious.