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  1. #1
    Player
    Avatar von Coatl
    Registriert seit
    May 2014
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    747
    Character
    Coatl Days
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    I wish we could give something equivalent to the opposite of a player recommendation. Some players are so bad that it feels unjust for them to finish the dungeon without knowing how bad they truly were.
    (18)

  2. #2
    Player
    Avatar von Pyreflye
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    Dec 2013
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    240
    Character
    Nugget Highwind
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pikenier Lv 50
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    I wish we could give something equivalent to the opposite of a player recommendation. Some players are so bad that it feels unjust for them to finish the dungeon without knowing how bad they truly were.
    I just use /disappointed.

    Nothing like "You show *insert player* your utter disappointment* to hit home the fact that they left a bad impression.
    (1)

  3. #3
    Player
    Avatar von Sakuraluna
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    May 2014
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    Character
    Malfoy Fleurentine
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Weißmagier Lv 80
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    I just use /disappointed.

    Nothing like "You show *insert player* your utter disappointment* to hit home the fact that they left a bad impression.
    That just sounds mean-spirited and tacky though. I mean, unless you tried, and failed, to give them advice earlier in the run, then why even bother with nasty emotes at the end. Just letting someone know you think they're bad isn't going to improve anything if they still don't know what they're doing wrong.
    (1)


    ___Malfoy __/thefleurentine.tumblr.com
    because diamonds are forever, as is dust.
    ~ . S A R G A T A N A S . ~
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  4. #4
    Player
    Avatar von Pyreflye
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    Dec 2013
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    Character
    Nugget Highwind
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pikenier Lv 50
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    That just sounds mean-spirited and tacky though. I mean, unless you tried, and failed, to give them advice earlier in the run, then why even bother with nasty emotes at the end. Just letting someone know you think they're bad isn't going to improve anything if they still don't know what they're doing wrong.
    Don't take it the wrong way, I'm one of the nicest and most tolerant players you will come across. I always offer any advice I possibly can, no matter how much difficulty someone is having.
    I'll spend an entire dungeon's duration explaining fights and helping newbies if I have to. If I didn't have the patience to deal with it, I wouldn't queue. That's my philosophy.

    However, when you come across those who insult you when you offer advice, and refuse to learn, then I will use /disappointed and leave it at that.

    You know the types I mean.
    "Hey, did you know that Heavy Thrust gives +15% damage? It'll help your DPS a lot! "
    "F*ck off noob, don't tell me how to play my class"

    Those kinds of players.

    *Edit*
    Oops, double post.
    (0)

  5. #5
    Player
    Avatar von Jodou
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    Aug 2013
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    Character
    Wilde Kat
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Waldläufer Lv 50
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    I wish we could give something equivalent to the opposite of a player recommendation. Some players are so bad that it feels unjust for them to finish the dungeon without knowing how bad they truly were.
    This already exists; it's called vote kick. :P
    (3)

  6. #6
    Player
    Avatar von Pyreflye
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    Dec 2013
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    240
    Character
    Nugget Highwind
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pikenier Lv 50
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    This already exists; it's called vote kick. :P
    Vote kicking someone for being sub-par at their job makes you a bad person, not them.
    (10)

  7. #7
    Player
    Avatar von Jodou
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    Aug 2013
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    Character
    Wilde Kat
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Waldläufer Lv 50
    Zitat Zitat von Pyreflye Beitrag anzeigen
    Vote kicking someone for being sub-par at their job makes you a bad person, not them.
    Not when they're beyond help and holding the team back.
    (1)

  8. #8
    Player
    Avatar von Pyreflye
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    Dec 2013
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    240
    Character
    Nugget Highwind
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pikenier Lv 50
    Zitat Zitat von Jodou Beitrag anzeigen
    Not when they're beyond help and holding the team back.
    AFK
    Harrassment
    Offline
    Cheating

    Remind me which category "bad player" fits under.

    Let me guess, you also kick level 15 tanks from Sastasha because they can't hold aggro?
    (4)
    Geändert von Pyreflye (14.09.14 um 12:54 Uhr)

  9. #9
    Player
    Avatar von Nalien
    Registriert seit
    Oct 2012
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    Character
    Taisai Jin
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Pikenier Lv 64
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    Remind me which category "bad player" fits under.
    Harassment.

    Sure, it's probably not verbally (though if you offer them advice, usually it will become), but when some people are playing that badly I can only assume they're trolling.

    There's not knowing mechanics, or making a mistake, then there is playing the game with a Power Glove while a cat bats your keyboard and mouse around. I'd also consider it harassment for someone to keep screwing up and not say a thing; I've had plenty of parties where we wipe because of one person, and I really want to kick them, and then they apologize. I even give those people commendations, because seeing someone actually take fault in this game is pretty damn rare. Continually messing up and saying nothing is just one tiny step up from messing up and pointing the finger at someone else, in my book.

    Lesson is, always offer a bad player advice, because they'll either stop sucking, or verbally assault you giving you a perfectly reasonable justification to kick them.
    (0)
    Geändert von Nalien (14.09.14 um 13:34 Uhr)

  10. #10
    Player
    Avatar von ElHeggunte
    Registriert seit
    Aug 2013
    Ort
    The Nation of Domination
    Beiträge
    1.466
    Character
    Naiyah Nanaya
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Mönch Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von Pyreflye Beitrag anzeigen
    AFK
    Harrassment
    Offline
    Cheating

    Remind me which category "bad player" fits under.
    Offline. Or maybe AFK. Which one would better reflect the lack of cognitive ability that seems to afflict some people?

    Don't take the list of "reasons" so literally. Sometimes people are so bad they're beyond any help you could give them while in an active duty so the best solution for everyone is to just remove them. Doesn't matter if SE didn't make a specific category for "brain dead". There are so many different reasons you could (or should) remove someone, there's no way SE could list every single one so they gave us the four most common reasons used for removal.
    (1)
    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

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