FFXIV does not need to be like FFXI

[Redemption]

..if the fans had somewhere else to go.


Note, I am for having some things xi in xiv, but maybe if there was still some ffxi left in ffxi players like me wouldnt have such a hunger for that kind of game.

[Yamimarik]

As nice as this sounds... shouldn't this be in the FFXI forums? I mean if you were asking for a FFXI-like server in XIV:ARR I could understand it being here.

[Redemption]

As nice as this sounds... shouldn't this be in the FFXI forums? I mean if you were asking for a FFXI-like server in XIV:ARR I could understand it being here.

It is there, I put it here because its a big point of contest on these forums with the "go back to ffxi's" all the time. So I figure, why not get those people to be proactive in making their own wish happen, get ffxiv to support their friends in xi and keep the games offering a different experience.

[Yamimarik]

It is there, I put it here because its a big point of contest on these forums with the "go back to ffxi's" all the time. So I figure, why not get those people to be proactive in making their own wish happen, get ffxiv to support their friends in xi and keep the games offering a different experience.

So basically instead of trying to breath life (new life) into FFXI or flesh out FFXIV:ARR more even with XI ideas, you just want to go play FFXI from a certain time in the past? That doesn't sound too fun at all, and I miss old FFXI a lot. But I'd rather see XIV come into it's own and really shine, even if it's with XI like ideas. I'm not sure how I feel about the direction for XI, but I'm always hopeful that it'll pull through for those who still love it. Seems to me you care too much what others think. I could be wrong though.

[Redemption]

So basically instead of trying to breath life (new life) into FFXI or flesh out FFXIV:ARR more even with XI ideas, you just want to go play FFXI from a certain time in the past? That doesn't sound too fun at all, and I miss old FFXI a lot. But I'd rather see XIV come into it's own and really shine, even if it's with XI like ideas. I'm not sure how I feel about the direction for XI, but I'm always hopeful that it'll pull through for those who still love it. Seems to me you care too much what others think. I could be wrong though.

I don't really care what others think, I just felt this would be a mutually beneficial proposition for those people. As for your stance on things, I would love to see FFXIV grow to be more but I don't see it happening and right now no game offers an experience like ffxi used to and thats why I want to go back. I don't know how in touch you are with ffxi as it is now, but the current director picked up a lot of ideas from his time working with Yoshida (the producer of 14) and has made it a very different experience. Were I to instead ask for changes to the current experience there is no way it would ever go through, it would offend too much of the current playerbase, those who did not quit as a result of the changes so the only answer I can see is to offer a single side experience for those who are looking for it so that it disturbs no one.

[Yamimarik]

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That's because the direction of MMORPG's in general are moving in a whole new direction. You won't see many new games exactly like FFXI. And to be honest, I'm not all that in love with the new system in XI. One of the main reasons I left, I actually loved Abyssea, but everything after Abyssea just ruined XI for me. I'm still not quite sure you request though, you just want a server on FFXI, that only plays as it did before a certain time? So DEVs would have to restructure everything to the way it once was (idk how much work that involves). Seems like it would be more hassle than it's worth. I'm sorry you don't feel FFXIV:ARR will ever truly develop, and I'm not saying "GO BACK TO XI!!" because I hate when people use that reply as well... but why even bother with XIV:ARR then and stay here blathering on about XI if you really don't see any hope for XIV:ARR?

I do see hope for FFXIV:ARR, I think it will continue on for many years. So many people fail to realize it's barely been 1 year now since the release of FFXIV:ARR not "FFXIV", but FFXIV:ARR. FFXI was only out little over a year before RoZ came to be, and NA got it's hands on it. There was hardly any content at all! So many NA's just remember NA launch with RoZ, but for the JP (and those who played with JP import) just had very little to do, there was even a level 50 cap! Give XIV:ARR some time to truly flesh out into a good game. Give it time for the expansion to come out and see where the system is then. I can't tell you or anyone how to enjoy a game or how to use your spare time. I just find it odd if people have such hang ups with a game why the continue to stay, especially if they see no hope. /shrug

[Redemption]

That's because the direction of MMORPG's in general are moving in a whole new direction. You won't see many new games exactly like FFXI. And to be honest, I'm not all that in love with the new system in XI. One of the main reasons I left, I actually loved Abyssea, but everything after Abyssea just ruined XI for me. I'm still not quite sure you request though, you just want a server on FFXI, that only plays as it did before a certain time? So DEVs would have to restructure everything to the way it once was (idk how much work that involves). Seems like it would be more hassle than it's worth. I'm sorry you don't feel FFXIV:ARR will ever truly develop, and I'm not saying "GO BACK TO XI!!" because I hate when people use that reply as well... but why even bother with XIV:ARR then and stay here blathering on about XI if you really don't see any hope for XIV:ARR?

I do see hope for FFXIV:ARR, I think it will continue on for many years. So many people fail to realize it's barely been 1 year now since the release of FFXIV:ARR not "FFXIV", but FFXIV:ARR. FFXI was only out little over a year before RoZ came to be, and NA got it's hands on it. There was hardly any content at all! So many NA's just remember NA launch with RoZ, but for the JP (and those who played with JP import) just had very little to do, there was even a level 50 cap! Give XIV:ARR some time to truly flesh out into a good game. Give it time for the expansion to come out and see where the system is then. I can't tell you or anyone how to enjoy a game or how to use your spare time. I just find it odd if people have such hang ups with a game why the continue to stay, especially if they see no hope. /shrug

Its not quite so hard as it sounds (not to diminish it, its still a large request) and has been done for a number of other games such as everquest, runescape and theres a big push for them in lineage 2 now (theres huge demand for it there and they will be releasing over 3 classic servers to meet that demand). I don't quite know where you are getting this that all im doing is trying to make everything ffxi. You may have seen me around these boards arguing about it but 90+% of the time I am just defending it as a good game, not as much pushing for it to be everywhere. Currently the main reason I hang around ffxiv is because for the type of game it is, its decent at least and I play it with friends and family but its just not what im looking for and I doubt it ever will be what im looking for (and thats ok, I still wish that it get better for all who like it).

As for what exactly my request is, yes I want a server that plays like a certain time. This is ONLY my request because it has been tempered with realistic expectation... I mean i'd love a modern version with all kinds of new stuff, etc. but it wont happen, the development went too far in the other direction. This is a compromise of sorts.

[Tashigi]

People have been asking Blizzard for a vanilla/TBC server since 2009 or so. Hasn't happened.
Also, as nice as these requests are (I would probably play in these type of servers) they do not belong here...

[Mimilu]

I just came back from a rump through XI, here are my thoughts:
On one hand, valor is very nice, it made the tedium that was level-grinding go by quicker.
On the other hand, it gets very lonely and boring grinding with just a party made entirely out of NPC.
On another other hand, those NPC help those of us who are returning or beginning for the first time, seeing as all the veterans are to far ahead to help...
I think that XI doesn't need to go back to pre-Abyssea, it needs something that will breath life back into it.

[Yamimarik]

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My big hang up still with this issue is stated in my first post, what is this doing on XIV:ARR forums? If you really don't care what others think on here, what is the point to bring this to the XIV:ARR forums just so you can say "Hey people who keep telling us to go back to XI, I want to so support me!" Just doesn't make much sense to me, but you just seem to be going in circles so C'est la vie. GL to what ever it is you're truly trying to achieve here in these forums I suppose...