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  1. #1
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    Req's Avatar
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    Rusalka Camenae
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    You don't know how to make meaningful solo content, please stop trying.

    Soloing is pointless in this game, there is literally no reward, so why even bother trying to focus on it SE? You clearly don't know how to make any sort of worthwhile solo content and this is completely destroying party content. To all of you skeptics out there saying that this just isn't the case hear me out.

    I know that in the last patch they made leves to primarily focus on solo play, but the only problem is they are damn near worthless without cranking them up to 3 or 4 stars. The only problem is, you didn't seem to take into account that 90% of the player base can't freaking do that because they don't have their sub jobs for abilities leveled high enough to even do them or they aren't on the right job. This makes them damn near worthless because you only get around 30k every other day from leves without cranking up the difficulty. This would mean that it would take around a week to go from 48-49 and 49-50. alone. That is just unnacceptable, and this is where the solo players problems bleed out into the people who actually want to play with other people.

    THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH MOBS TO GO AROUND. plain and simple. If there is a party in an area you can simply forget about getting any sort of semblance of decent sp per hour.

    Leveling from 30-40 has been completely destroyed with the last patch. I know everyone is raving about the young raptor camp from 30-40 now but in all honesty, these areas can only support about one party in each level range. If you have any more than that you will be completely destroying any hope of anyone getting more than 15k an hour, and unfortunately, this is where all the higher level solo players are turning to get their sp now because there honestly isn't anything else that gives decent SP anymore. Hell, last night someone soloing mobs destroyed our sp, neither the solo person nor my party broke more than 15k an hour because of this. This has been an issue in the upper raptor party as well

    And the funny thing is, Yoshida seems to know of this problem yet for whatever stupid reason they decided to plop an encampment right in one of the best party areas in the game for the low to mid 30s and completely obliterate the mob count destroying any hopes of even partying there.

    The only way I can honestly think of them getting rid of this problem is adding an SP bonus to parties and make mobs that give any sort of decent sp impossible to kill solo and slow to kill for parties, and then increasing the bonus sp you get at the end of leves to make them worthwhile so you don't lose your solo player base. If you can't resolve this problem SE then youre going to completely destroy your game, because when "everyone playing the game how they want" mixes in with others, and makes it so its impossible of either of them to play it how they want its going to make people not want to play at all.

    End wall of text.
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    well I know that crafting leves at R40, R45 give about 4000 completion bonus. If they were to make that standard for the battle classes as a static reward, you could get through your leves with 30k SP in completion bonus, along with the SP you are gettin from your kills. That would certainly be higher than 15k an hour and wouldn't be game breaking.

    Don't forget quests and stuff are giving SP for rewards now.
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  3. #3
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    Etoile Kallera
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    The Mindlessly large SP Numbers that were being taken in from leves before the 1.18 patch was not something that was to be kept.
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    Tsukino Mahou
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH MOBS TO GO AROUND. plain and simple. If there is a party in an area you can simply forget about getting any sort of semblance of decent sp per hour.
    You answered your own problem in the next paragraph really:
    Quote Originally Posted by Req View Post
    I know everyone is raving about the young raptor camp from 30-40 now but in all honesty, these areas can only support about one party in each level range.
    It's a single camp and there are many other areas where you can fight appropriately ranked mobs in the game currently. Everyone's just going there because people posted it here and on other forums. As people party more, they will be forced to realize there's more than one camp for 30-40 in the game.

    Also, future plans should probably fix partying a bit. They announced in the magazine that they're going to try and adjust battles to take a little longer so that parties aren't killing things in a few seconds.

    It's also possible that as partying takes off, they may adjust the current repop algorithms to better suit that. It was never necessary before because everyone used leves to rank up. Now that people are camping and need to move and take up large sections of an area, they could end up making repop timers shorter. Or better yet, make them dynamic so that more people in an area killing mobs faster makes them repop faster for better grinding, but someone could still clear the area solo or with a couple people if they needed to get through an aggro area.

    Oh, also, it's not a wall of text if you make paragraphs like you did. It's quite easy to read.
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    Perrina Avolara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    You answered your own problem in the next paragraph really:
    It's a single camp and there are many other areas where you can fight appropriately ranked mobs in the game currently. Everyone's just going there because people posted it here and on other forums. As people party more, they will be forced to realize there's more than one camp for 30-40 in the game.
    Yeah, looks like a bit of the FFXI "You are supposed to level in "x" zone at "y" level range..." mentality is creeping in to XIV.

    Maybe if people can be turned away from that tendency early, we won't see the same limited behavior as the game grows.
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