Labyrinth of the Ancients Raid

[eschaton]

Isn’t there a way to make this big raid more viable again?

Don’t waste the good stuff

Maybe let it drop Allied seals or something?

[Chihaya]

Add mounts with 1% drop rate and all 24 people roll on it /derp

[Alukah]

This is a consequence SE has to deal with after they chose this extreme vertical progression.

[16bitBounty]

I hadn't done CT since ST was released. Since I had started over and I'm just now knocking out all the crap I needed to do, I had to run it. Worst. CT. run. ever. My alliance wiped 3 times before the dragon. Somehow after the dragon though we managed to be the best alliance in the raid. Go figure.

[Gardes]

Don’t waste the good stuff

Better get used to it. This is SE's design decision that apparently majority of players like and support (throwing away content 6 months after its release).

New players coming at expansion will have 1-50 levelling process -> straight to expansion content to enjoy.

[Nalien]

Better get used to it. This is SE's design decision that apparently majority of players like and support (throwing away content 6 months after its release).

New players coming at expansion will have 1-50 levelling process -> straight to expansion content to enjoy.

Wont they be several iLvs behind? You get to 50 and you're barely i55; most people wont even let you do Titan (Hard) in that, let alone whatever new content an expansion has.

[16bitBounty]

Wont they be several iLvs behind? You get to 50 and you're barely i55; most people wont even let you do Titan (Hard) in that, let alone whatever new content an expansion has.

5 days of hunting and they'll have enough seals to buy full ilvl 90.

[Gardes]

Wont they be several iLvs behind? You get to 50 and you're barely i55; most people wont even let you do Titan (Hard) in that, let alone whatever new content an expansion has.

Hunts let you get to near i90 in one round of A ranks. Someone in my fc did that and bought all the myth gear with the hunt seals. Yesterday I got into a titan HM trial (iirc only need i57) where the pld has full i90 myth gear save for the 1 ring...and a cobalt samshir and some lvl 40 shield. He said he has never done the fight before (there was indeed a myth bonus) but the party let him main tank it. I was about to point it out but they already pulled. Needless to say, we had to do a 2nd attempt. I'm not joking.

I don't know how the expansion ilvl structure is going to be like, but if there's a 'standard' starting ilvl for the new lvl cap (right now our light dungeons goes up to i80 and will probably end at i100 at 2.5, the supposed last patch before expansion), I would not be surprised if they start handing out i100+ gear as you level up with quest rewards so that new players starting from expansion will be able to jump in into the expansion content straight away with 'friends'. All the gear that we have so far will be nothing but glamour novelties, and so will be the content that drops these gears (see: levi ex).

[Fendred]

Better get used to it. This is SE's design decision that apparently majority of players like and support (throwing away content 6 months after its release).

New players coming at expansion will have 1-50 levelling process -> straight to expansion content to enjoy.

Not really, we've had long time MMORPG players posting serious concerns about the use of such progression at least as far back as closed beta. They just chose to do it arbitrarily because of World of Warcraft. It's why every developer does it. The developers were new to the western MMORPG market and proceeded to make the same decision every other dev has made for the last 8 years. That does not make it a good move. It has not done the trademark case for this kind of progression any favors.

Also, playing or enjoying the game as it is right now is not a form of consent to the progression method because high-octane vertical progression effects the future state of the game more than the present.

[Kydi]

I still run it for the armour to glamour, although my rolls are always atrocious. I know what you mean though, it's quite a fun dungeon with some interesting mechanics - Atomos, dragon and skeletons etc (more so than don't stand here or you wipe the raid).