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  1. #71
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    Fornix's Avatar
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    Fornix Amygdala
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Noll View Post
    This is what we dropped so far:

    5x BLM
    3x WAR
    2x MNK
    2x DRG
    2x BRD
    Not too bad. At least nothing has had to be done to waste yet. On T5 we ended up getting so many allagan axes, that we had to trash them as nobody could actually pick it up anymore.
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  2. #72
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    BunnyChain's Avatar
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    Rena Cebe
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 1
    RNG and weekly lock-out don't mix well.

    Content that is gated by time shouldn't be gated by effort as well and vice versa.
    Syrcus Tower is still borderline acceptable in this regard but Coil goes to far, imo.
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  3. #73
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by dannycookies View Post
    We're not slamming our heads against FATEs for some atma garbage here. This is a very difficult fight with a lot of mechanics that the majority of players will never be able to get through without a major echo + nerf. It's a slap in the face to reward people who learn how to jump rope through t9 by incorporating a lazy RNG design to "stretch the content out." The solution should not be to penalize us with RNG, it should be adding more raiding content at a quicker rate. Four raids every six months is ridiculous. Besides, they wouldn't have such a hard time keeping content relevant and giving us things to do if they stopped making all previous raids useless after every major patch.
    Maybe you should understand that content doesn't just come into existence by will alone. In fact, that goes for pretty much everything in life.

    Now, SE could, I expect, throw out 20 raids in a 3 month patch cycle. That's not hard to do all. Use an existing arena, so you don't spent resources on creating new graphics for that. Use an existing mob with existing textures and movesets and you don't have to create a new one. Don't bother thinking about how to make interesting mechanics, just make it pure tank and spank with no thought at all. Just that alone would save SE time and money. They could just use an existing library and have a handful of people develop the game. Oh, and definitely don't work on 3.0 or 4.0 expansions at the same time, because that's taking up resources away from more raids per patch cycle as well.

    If you want quality end game content, then you have to accept that it takes time to create, test and balance. We already know that SE has their own testers fine tune mechanics and often redesigns a particular raid, simply because Savage mode exists (their original version of the battle). For all we know, it could take 3-4 weeks per raid to actually design, create, develop and tweak. That would mean that 4-5 raids in 6 months is actually pretty good.

    But if you want crappy, dull and unexciting content then they could do that. There's actually a concept for this; look up the Project Management Triangle. The only way you can get very high quality is through lots of time, lots of money and a huge amount of scope/complexity. But they could do it very cheaply, very quickly and with little scope. That leads to very low quality, however, and I don't think SE want to simply churn out factory lined content just to please the few impatient people.

    (And, no, I'm not actively defending their decision. Just pointing out business facts, that many people seem to not understand).
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  4. #74
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    Noll's Avatar
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    Noll Aestel
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I don't think a token system will make people stop doing the raid after 8 tries. You're still aiming to get your secondary job weapon, eventually your third job. At least you'll know that after 8 weeks you can get your drop.

    In T5 I was lucky, I dropped my book after 2 or 3 tries, I still farmed T5 with my party 'till coil#2 was released.
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