whats up with the rmt all the sudden?

[joshsecret]

cactuar is getting out of hand again.
there are FCs full of BLMs that spam WD all together over and over.
i wish SE would hire me. i might as well get paid for spotting/finding/reporting bots!

[RiceisNice]

cactuar is getting out of hand again.
there are FCs full of BLMs that spam WD all together over and over.
i wish SE would hire me. i might as well get paid for spotting/finding/reporting bots!

You mean like this?

[joshsecret]

You mean like this?

exactly.
i cannot see why it is so hard for SE to spot these guys.
Protip Devs.. do a player search.
search 50, BLM ONLY.
and look! its not difficult to spot them!
and thats only the ones that have gotten to 50 and use this BLM RMT thingy program.

if you see a bunch of BLMs in a party together, queuing up together over and over, normally with ridiculous names, all wearing the same equipment....
i have noticed them getting clever and getting up a rank in crafting to throw people off.

[Tupsi]

exactly.
i cannot see why it is so hard for SE to spot these guys..

Because you can have a group of people do the same thing that aren't RMT or Bots. What then? Start banning people at random because they "look" like RMT/Bots? It's not that simple because you're thinking on the "this affects my game play" whereas SE has to think of "how will this look if we start banning people at random and it hits the media?"

[joshsecret]

Because you can have a group of people do the same thing that aren't RMT or Bots.

im sorry but a group of characters, all with funky names, all the same class, all with the same sub classes, all with 1 rank in weaver or whatever, all with the same gear, all standing in the same area are BOTS.
yes it may be a real person on the other end but they are still using programs to run all of those characters. normally they are using them to SB gear, break down, and sell on the MB for huge amounts of gil.
so the next time you work on that relic quest.. just pay attention to some of those retainers names.

also your entire argument is based on the notion that SE will insta ban anyone. of course they wont. but these are simple observations that can flag certain characters and once spotted,
the appropriate actions can be taken to monitor and ban if needed.

[odintius]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag_MzOKghp8

[LeonBlade]

Basically since the Chinese launch of ARR (surprise surprise)

Really dude? I've actually not gotten any RMT in a very long time since they did the recent changes with how /tells work. I've rarely got the friend request thing, and even then... I just delete them and move on. I've got 3 friend requests total since they made the changes, and my blacklist has been clean ever since then as well.

So based on MY experience, since the Chinese launch there has been LESS spam. It all depends on what server you're on, it has nothing to do with the Chinese release, that's pretty disrespectful, and this is coming from someone who normally wouldn't care either way, and I'm not even Chinese either.

[SummerRayne]

To the people saying this isn't coming from China and there is hardly any spam in this game. Really? Must be nice to not be getting spammed by this constantly. I started playing maybe a month ago and I have 39 on my blacklist so far. That's right, 39. And I am a very casual player who plays little. And the reason most people blame "Chinese gold farmers" is because it's well known that most of this comes from China. Not trying to be disrespectful by any means but it's a fact and there was even a documentary done on it a while back. This is basically common knowledge in mmo's.

I HATE how it comes through in tells and then the immediate friend request. It feels so much more invasive to me by getting spammed like this. I have on occasion turned off the ability for anyone to send tells but how ridiculous that I need to do that and not be able to receive tells from friends, fc members, etc.

[Tupsi]

To the people saying this isn't coming from China .

It's one of the biggest generalizations when it's been shown and proven that RMT isn't 100% chinese but infact tends to be based outside of china, which is why you can't "shut them down" because the laws of the particular country disallows that. It may be frowned upon but it's a legal operation, heck you used to be able to drive up to one of the RMT businesses based in Florida, which as we know, was the company who bought the parent company that owned ZAM.

[SummerRayne]

It's one of the biggest generalizations when it's been shown and proven that RMT isn't 100% chinese but infact tends to be based outside of china, which is why you can't "shut them down" because the laws of the particular country disallows that.

I'm not saying 100% of this comes from China. I am saying the majority does though. And as far as I know here in the US it IS illegal. At least to the best of my knowledge it is. Here is a quote from Wikipedia regarding this.

This same report estimated that 80% of all gold farmers were from China[11] a fact which has led to prejudice towards Chinese players.[15] 2008 figures from China valued the Chinese trade in virtual currency at over several billion yuan, or nearly USD300 million. Here is the link from the full Wikipedia article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_farming

And another http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_farming_in_China

Also, Blizzard won a lawsuit against one of these companies and as we know they are based in the US. Most be something illegal about it here.

Edit: I saw your previous post Tupsi and saw you were referring to the RMT companies themselves and not the gold farmers which is what I was referring to. It's the gold farmers that are primarily from China. A misunderstanding on my part. I haven't been able to find any substantial info on where the majority of these companies originate personally. And as far as it actually being illegal in the US, not sure if it's an actual law but I know the IRS sure isn't looking too kindly on it so I wouldn't doubt if something will be done about it here in the near future. But I am thinking it is illegal here for some reason. Something I read a while back. But anyways, wanted to clarify my misunderstanding! Regardless, both are as big a nuisance as the other in my opinion. Farmer and sellers alike. Despise both personally no matter where they originate from. And.....Square Enix posted this today which is great news. Hope it helps this problem.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...cfe8d21a855936