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    It is possible that the Rapier would be Main hand weapon, and the gun would be tied to abilities, this way the gun is always there, but it would never change...so there is that obstacle. Unless it changed skin when equipping new rapiers.

    This would be really neat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synestr View Post
    It is possible that the Rapier would be Main hand weapon, and the gun would be tied to abilities, this way the gun is always there, but it would never change...so there is that obstacle. Unless it changed skin when equipping new rapiers.

    This would be really neat!
    Yes this is exactly how I see it. I had to cut a lot out because of the 2000 character limit. Originally i discussed Engineer and Ranger as well as more about the functionality of the class/job.

    Edit: Oh but I see what you meant now. Liek the gun would never really change its always there. Like Scholars book in FFXI. But then that kind of leaves out the whole lore on the blacksmith guild pioneering gun craft.
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    Last edited by Aliquis; 09-11-2014 at 03:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliquis View Post
    Yes this is exactly how I see it. I had to cut a lot out because of the 2000 character limit.
    You can edit your post and make it as long as you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synestr View Post
    It is possible that the Rapier would be Main hand weapon, and the gun would be tied to abilities, this way the gun is always there, but it would never change...so there is that obstacle. Unless it changed skin when equipping new rapiers.

    This would be really neat!
    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The sword would be the "main" weapon and you would off-hand a gun as part of the set. Kind of like Cervantes' weapons if you've ever played any of the Soul Calibur games.
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    Back to discrepancies of main and off hand. This already exists and is compensated for, PLD relic sword and shield where the upgrade cost is divided among the two. Also this could serve as the divide between RDM and COR, where RDMs path goes with sword and CORs path goes with gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliquis View Post
    Back to discrepancies of main and off hand. This already exists and is compensated for, PLD relic sword and shield where the upgrade cost is divided among the two. Also this could serve as the divide between RDM and COR, where RDMs path goes with sword and CORs path goes with gun.
    Except if it isn't using magic with the sword it ain't a RDM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aliquis View Post
    Cutlass falls into the rapier category and yes. Here is at one time the most popular and over powered one from FFXI that COR infact could use.
    Actually no. Cutlass is more in line with the cavalry saber, except the saber is longer while the cutlass is wider and shorter. Rapiers are used as thrusting weapons while the cutlass and saber are made for cutting. That's two entirely different fighting styles.

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    My money is still on the gunblade class being our "gun class that we didn't expect". Probably a healer based on how Cid acted in combat.
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    Last edited by Duelle; 09-11-2014 at 08:25 PM.
    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Except if it isn't using magic with the sword it ain't a RDM.
    Actually no. Cutlass is more in line with the cavalry saber, except the saber is longer while the cutlass is wider and shorter. Rapiers are used as thrusting weapons while the cutlass and saber are made for cutting. That's two entirely different fighting styles.

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    My money is still on the gunblade class being our "gun class that we didn't expect". Probably a healer based on how Cid acted in combat.
    Thank you, I am not the only one that didn't over look the fact that Cid is basically a Chemist. Ranged tanks almost never work well, and I doubt it is going to be a DD since we are all ready saturated with them. The gun class will be a Chemist of sorts using 'Potions' like Aqua Vitae and Fortis for heals/buffs/debuff. I say 'Potions' because these will not be consumables.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    He said it'll be something people won't expect meaning:

    1. Goes back to him not playing XI and he ends up making Corsair again, because that's something no one would have expected when you mention "Gunner", because how many MMOs have a Gunner that's also an amazing support role?
    2. He stated it'll be a Magic user, so not chemist, but will be a "mage".

    It'd be easier if he just...told people about it. Hell we were getting info on Blue Mage and Corsair up to a year prior to it's release when they were showcasing ToAU expansion for XI, even if some of the main stuff they showed off we never got for Blue Mage, e.g Spider Web.
    Where did he mention it will be a magic-user? Serious question, not being a rear end in a top hat. I never saw that mentioned in anything I looked over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle View Post
    Where did he mention it will be a magic-user? Serious question, not being a rear end in a top hat. I never saw that mentioned in anything I looked over.
    It was an off comment sometime around E3 where he said that it'll use Magic, trying to remember exactly when since it was when he was throwing out some details about Rogue/Ninja and people kept asking about Musketeer/Gunner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    It was an off comment sometime around E3 where he said that it'll use Magic, trying to remember exactly when since it was when he was throwing out some details about Rogue/Ninja and people kept asking about Musketeer/Gunner.
    Ah, thank you. I'll see if I can find a video or something. That would be an entirely new aspect to look at, for now I still put my money on Chemist but I could be wrong. We are sorely lacking caster DPS and healers, but we're about at the end of the usual gimmicks for healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle View Post
    Ah, thank you. I'll see if I can find a video or something. That would be an entirely new aspect to look at, for now I still put my money on Chemist but I could be wrong. We are sorely lacking caster DPS and healers, but we're about at the end of the usual gimmicks for healers.
    Chemist has nothing to do with magic.

    I too agree that it probably is chemist because in the history of Final Fantasy we don't have many healers other than white mage, chemist, and now potentially dancer since in FFXI they were healers.
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