Novus Vs the Un-Weathered Weapons...what gives?

[SendohJin]

My personal un-favorite was Atma. Friggin RNG crap. That's what keeps me from doing another Novus.

if it wasn't for Atma i would have a Novus done by now with how many Allied Seals i have and how many myth materials i've sold for gil.

still only ever gotten 5 Atma since the quest was released.

[Sunako]

I did novus myself cause that save 3 weeks worth of soldierys and i could gear faster my char.

[TomTom1968]

So...in the midst of my second book for Stardust Rod Animus atm, and actually quite enjoying it as a quest structure, but I'm looking at this 75 alexandrite (sp?) bullshit I'm bound for afterwards and checking out the stats for the Laevateinn, which are seemingly the same (materia choice depending).

So what the heck?

They kind of have to keep making the 'relic' weapons be 'the best' because of the ridiculous hurdles required to attain the every single upgrade...

And yet I have an Unidentified Allagan Tombstone, so I'm less than 1500 soldiery away from a weapon that's on par with a Novus?

Was gonna use the UAT for my secondary class (Warrior) but now...not sure.

Can someone assure me that the Novus it actually worth it?

Have a look at the stats of the Laevateinn. It might be nice if you have problems reaching the Accuracy caps for Coil but a BML shouldn't have a problem with it anyways. A weapon for a DD should focus on Damage and nothing else so the ACC stat on it is a waste in my eyes, only usable as a temporary solution or as a compromise.

The Relict weapon on the other side is fully customizable and will, as others have stated already in this thread, receive more updates in the Future so if you don't do it, you fall behind with each new update they release and once you decide that you want it, you start from scratch. And if you do not belong to the top raiders who can get the Coil weapon quickly, this will be your best weapon for many months.

[Woggers]

The un weathered i110 weapon is a joke and a disgrace for BLMs everywhere. Go with the novus for sure.

[Reynhart]

"The relic can upgrade" is not really a good point.
It'll take time to upgrade a relic to the next step.
It'll take time to drop a better weapon in the next item tier.
The only difference is that you can choose the stats, but that's a huge difference, given that other i110 weapon can have a less useful stat. AND, if the i110 weapon has a bonus to Deter (Although, not sure if that happens), it'll actually have less total stat bonuses that the Novus.

[ispano]

"The relic can upgrade" is not really a good point.
It'll take time to upgrade a relic to the next step.
It'll take time to drop a better weapon in the next item tier.
The only difference is that you can choose the stats, but that's a huge difference, given that other i110 weapon can have a less useful stat. AND, if the i110 weapon has a bonus to Deter (Although, not sure if that happens), it'll actually have less total stat bonuses that the Novus.

Well, the thing people forget is that in the grand scheme of things, secondary stat differences mean very little. 5% at best between a 110 with non optimal stats, or even no secondaries, vs one with optimal.

[Reynhart]

Well, the thing people forget is that in the grand scheme of things, secondary stat differences mean very little. 5% at best between a 110 with non optimal stats, or even no secondaries, vs one with optimal.

Since you can easily attain Accuracy cap with only armor and accessories while focusing on another primary stat, any weapon with a lot of accuracy has a fair chance to be far from optimal.
And DPS wise, skill speed boost is pretty low compared to Crit or Deter.

For example, my "cheap" Curtana Nova is +18 Deter, +24, Crit, +11 Acc. Burtgang is +22 Accu and +22 Deter, so it's really worse.

[ispano]

Since you can easily attain Accuracy cap with only armor and accessories while focusing on another primary stat, any weapon with a lot of accuracy has a fair chance to be far from optimal.
And DPS wise, skill speed boost is pretty low compared to Crit or Deter.

It's still minimal, again, 5% at best.

I've compared Weathered Conqueror and HA Great Axe while keeping the rest of my gear the same using this calculator :http://valk.dancing-mad.com/calculat...ut-calculator/
The difference between the two, DPS wise, is 6%

Would you skip high-allagan weapon ?

Thing is High Allagan is i115, so it has a Weapon/Magic Damage and Primary Stat bump, which outweigh ANY sub stat combination they may have in comparison to an i110 weapon.

[Reynhart]

It's still minimal, again, 5% at best.

I've compared Weathered Conqueror and HA Great Axe while keeping the rest of my gear the same using this calculator : http://valk.dancing-mad.com/calculat...ut-calculator/
The difference between the two, DPS wise, is 6%

Would you skip high-allagan weapon ?

[NyneAlexander]

Specifically from a BLM point of view: If you are doing 2nd coil and getting high allagan armor, you are NOT going to need that accuracy from the laevathin (spelling). If you are NOT getting 2nd coil gear, you will need the accuracy. However.. it should be said that the only content you really need accuracy cap 471 for is.. well.. 2nd coil.

My honest black mage opinion? Get the novus. Because spell speed and determination (or SS, DET and some PIE to get to 251 natural PIE) is WAY better than the insane ACC and moderate SS on the Laevathin.

Also... dat glow.